Talk:Naya Rivera

Punctuation
In this article, all the punctuation marks go outside quotation marks. The article is supposed to be in American English, isn't it? Isn't it a rule of thumb that commas and periods should be inside the quotation marks? Just wanted to make sure before I mindlessly suggest an edit replacing them all. Iopezlove (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's Wikipedia's style. See MOS:INOROUT. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  16:45, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

In death, and famous as she was, her name gets a sound spelling?
At no time while she was alive did Naya Rivera ever get a sound spelling for her name. Naya is also the name of a bottled water brand, Rivera we know from people like Geraldo. Again, at no time in her life did she get a sound spelling, but according to Wikipedia logic, the more famous you are, the higher the likelihood people will have in not being able to pronounce your name correctly. Get rid of it NOW! The condescension of thus website is horrid!--67.86.58.61 (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It's almost as if it took external sources to wait until her death to tell us how to pronounce her name! Being serious, you have no legitimate reason to exclude it or to request anyone to "get rid of it NOW" or any time. If you don't like it, it's your problem. © Tb hotch ™ 00:54, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Where does it end, Geraldo Rivera, Chita Rivera? Naya is just Maya with an N. Yet you include no sound spelling for Maya Rudolph. Almost seems as though you attach different standards. For some time I saw a sound spelling for Paul Ryan of all people.--67.86.58.61 (talk) 01:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Dou you have sources for Geraldo Rivera, Chita Rivera and Maya Rudolph? © Tb hotch ™ 01:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * And, honestly, the amount of reports on her death mispronouncing her last name was more than expected. 'Naya', despite similarity to 'Maya', is an uncommon name in English and that leads to confusion. Just because you can say it doesn't mean it gets excluded - like Cory Monteith has IPA, despite that seeming easier. Imagine if everything that one person thought was common knowledge was excluded from an encyclopedia. Kingsif (talk) 10:22, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As for it only appearing after death - yes, more people come to improve articles then, and a source about the pronunciation appeared then. Almost like people want to be sure it's correct more when a person isn't around to correct it. Kingsif (talk) 10:27, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Death and disappearance section
After someone added a paragraph on the Sep. 11 toxicology report, which I removed as UNDUE (then added details of, thinking that having the "no evidence of intoxication" line may be challenged if some details are completely omitted), I looked at the section further and felt that it was probably too much detail on what is effectively an event (Rivera's death) that, yes, is of massive importance to the subject, but should still be treated like one event among many. As it's not her primary notability, having every detail of the event rather than just the most pertinent details (or a very trimmed version as would be appropriate for the death sections of other bios), is also undue. So I made Draft:Death of Naya Rivera (a little slip-up in making it through AfC, but it will likely be put in article space soon). This also helps because the article is very long (a lot of the bytes come from tables taking up more html space, but it's not a short article). When the draft becomes an article, the section on Rivera's death will need to be trimmed and possibly reworked. I'll probably do this, too, but please add any input! Kingsif (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm a pretty inexperienced editor and I only come every now and then when I see a comma in the wrong place or something, but I read over your article and I just wanted to say that I think it's a good idea to replace the section with it; it's getting really long compared to other equally significant parts of the main article. Quick question though, Josey is five now, so shouldn't you guys be specifying his age to "then-four-year-old"? Or is it just implied because we're talking about events that happened back in July? MLRXSE (talk) 05:23, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support and, yes, because it's talking about an "event" on a fixed day the age is presumed to be on that day. If it were more vaguely talking about a period in someone's life, "then-" is often added. Kingsif (talk) 11:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

2Cellos picture
In the article there is a picture of 2Cellos, a group that is famous in Croatia, who was never certified outside Croatia, but did record some songs with a few notable artists, including Rivera. I don't understand the use of a picture of them here. Can someone explain it to me? The article is about Rivera.--Haldir Marchwarden (talk) 09:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It's in the section that focuses on her music career, she recorded two singles with them, why not illustrate the act? Same as there's a photo of her ex in the relationship section. The text talks about people, and there's a photo to identify. Kingsif (talk) 14:55, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the picture is unnecessary because it doesn't depict them and Rivera. Personally, I love 2cellos, but the fact is they aren't as famous as Rivera in the US imo (not as yet anyway), so their pictures here isn't even "to Rivera's advantage." I was going to say we might as well include a picture of Big Sean, I just saw it's already there, and that they were in a relationship too, so maybe that's okay. They had a bond that goes beyond recording two songs together.--Haldir Marchwarden (talk) 21:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)