Talk:Necklace

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New Editor
Hey! I added a disclaimer on the page because the work I did focuses on European necklaces, and doesn't really talk about any other kind - like Asian, African, South American, Indigenous peoples etc - so my professor suggested I mention that in the article. I tried to keep my comment fact based - the article really does focus mostly on European information - so hopefully it's okay! Thanks so much EHowell2020 (talk) 16:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * common problem with jewellery articles. More generally "barbarian groups" seems a bit judgmental. Could you clarify which groups you mean?©Geni (talk) 11:26, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi! I'm working on this page for a class project. Here's an early bibliography I compiled:
 * 1) BIEMOND, DIRK JAN. "Acquisitions: The Marjan and Gerard Unger Collection Jewellery by Twentieth-Century Dutch Jewellers, Goldsmiths, Silversmiths and Designers." The Rijksmuseum Bulletin 58, no. 3 (2010): 266-304.
 * 2) Carnevali, Francesca. "Fashioning Luxury for Factory Girls: American Jewelry, 1860-1914." The Business History Review 85, no. 2 (2011): 295-317.
 * 3) Choate, Sharr. 1966. Creative Casting: Jewelry, Silverware, Sculpture. New York: Crown.
 * 4) Davenport, Cyril. "Journal of the Society for Arts, Vol. 50, No. 2595." The Journal of the Society of Arts 50, no. 2595 (1902): 769-80.
 * 5) Flood, Kathy. 2011. Warman's Jewelry Field Guide : Values and Identification. 2Nd ed. Iola, WI: KP Books.
 * 6) Flood, Kathy. 2010. Warman's Jewelry : Fine & Costume Jewelry. 4Th ed. Iola, WI: Krause Publications
 * 7) Gisela M. A. Richter. "Greek and Roman Jewelry Recent Accessions." The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin 19, no. 2 (1924): 34-38. doi:10.2307/3254725.
 * 8) Gregorietti, Guido. 1969. Jewelry through the Ages. New York: American Heritage.
 * 9) XIONG, VICTOR CUNRUI, and ELLEN JOHNSTON LAING. "Foreign Jewelry in Ancient China." Bulletin of the Asia Institute, New Series, 5 (1991): 163-73.
 * 10) Collections: Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Fine Arts, Victoria and Albert Museum, The British Museum
 * 1) Flood, Kathy. 2010. Warman's Jewelry : Fine & Costume Jewelry. 4Th ed. Iola, WI: Krause Publications
 * 2) Gisela M. A. Richter. "Greek and Roman Jewelry Recent Accessions." The Metropolitan Museum of Art Bulletin 19, no. 2 (1924): 34-38. doi:10.2307/3254725.
 * 3) Gregorietti, Guido. 1969. Jewelry through the Ages. New York: American Heritage.
 * 4) XIONG, VICTOR CUNRUI, and ELLEN JOHNSTON LAING. "Foreign Jewelry in Ancient China." Bulletin of the Asia Institute, New Series, 5 (1991): 163-73.
 * 5) Collections: Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Fine Arts, Victoria and Albert Museum, The British Museum
 * 1) XIONG, VICTOR CUNRUI, and ELLEN JOHNSTON LAING. "Foreign Jewelry in Ancient China." Bulletin of the Asia Institute, New Series, 5 (1991): 163-73.
 * 2) Collections: Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Fine Arts, Victoria and Albert Museum, The British Museum
 * 1) Collections: Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Fine Arts, Victoria and Albert Museum, The British Museum
 * 1) Collections: Metropolitan Museum of Art; Museum of Fine Arts, Victoria and Albert Museum, The British Museum

If anyone knows about other reputable sources I could use, I would love to hear them.

Thanks so much, and Happy Halloween! EHowell2020 (talk) 00:25, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Photo
I added a photo, per request on this page. - PKM 18:11, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Tribal Example
Out of all the examples you use to demonstrate a necklace you use an tribal member? Really makes no sense other than an attempt to try to make the article seem to have greater breadth than it does. A modern Western Jew or Christian with an associated religious icon would have been better. It is a significant part of the culture that actually reads Wikipedia and so would be a better reference point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.30.225.46 (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Necklace
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Necklace's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "museum": From Ukrainian culture: [http://www.umacleveland.org/embroidery.htm Ukrainian Museum Archives. Online exhibit on loan from the D.Dmytrykiw Ukrainian Ethnographic Research Collection, Library & Archives of Westlake, Ohio] From Phasianotrochus irisodontes:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:59, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Please write to backdrop necklace
Please write to backdrop necklace and necklace's back. --RJANKA (talk) 06:27, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Length vs own article conflict
(also mentioned in Talk:Choker)

conflicts with the own article of 2 of them:

Collar: “necklace that lies flat to the body [] and rests directly above the collar bone.” Clear-cut and makes sense: flat means tight, and tight means no lower. : “About 30~33 centimetres (12~13 inch) long and sits high on the neck.” Too loose to hold high on the neck. Near was probably the intent. But the article definition seems better.

Choker: “close-fitting necklace worn around the neck.” Vague, a pleonasm, and the images show very different things. “potential to hide the Adam's apple” Suggests near the top of the neck. : “Close-fitting, short, 35~41 centimetres (14~16 in) long.” Specific and compatible, but…
 * Intuitively, a choker should be the tightest length, the nearest to choking.
 * The modern choker I know is a narrow, skin-tight, elastic, lightweight band that holds high on and to the neck. This is probably popular culture reinterpretation, that could have deserved a new name.

But then, maybe “collar/choker” and “collar/choker necklace” are different things? After all, “necklace” alone seems to be used in opposition to those two specific variants to mean the usual (long) form.

I leave edits to people more familiar. Musaran (talk) 00:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)