Talk:Ned Kelly

Citizenship / Nationality
Should the article explain Kelly's acquisition of Australian citizenship, given that he was born in a then-British colony? JezGrove (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't see that this is an issue. All reliable sources refer to him as an Australian bushranger and he certainly didn't identify as British. His notatiblity comes from being an Australian bushranger. This is perfectly consistent with MOS:NATIONALITY. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

inflation calcs
Kind of hard to grasp reward amounts from this era without modern-day approximations. Should this be introduced. I've invoked it for the Aus gold rushes, which was of a similar era. Thoughts? Electricmaster (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't think it is useful because the result would be misleading. I understand that there is a template which provides an adjustment of money amount for inflation, but such templates are only as useful as the source data. Consumer inflation is usually calculated using the change in price of a "typical" basket of goods and services, but there is no comparison between a typical basket of goods and services in 1880 compared with today. Today, people spend a lot of money on cars, laptops and iphones; these didn't exist in 1880. Today a typical house in Melbourne costs $800k; in 1880 Ned built a loghouse for his family himself. A more useful comparison (IMHO) would be reward money expressed a a multiple of the average wage. Unfortunately such a comparison would involve original research. Also see my concerns last time you raised this issue. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 09:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Police-murderer?
Why does the lead paragraph describe him as a police-murderer? Are police lives more valuable in Australia? Sorry. I'm American. Maybe I don't get it because we at least pretend to value all human life equally even if we dont always live up to it. And also everyone here hates the police except the police, their wives/husbands, and the mob bosses that pay them to ignore their crimes. And Republicans, I guess. They want to enforce their way of life on everyone else by any means necessary. But seriously, are we suggesting that killing a policeman is a worse crime than killing someome else? Not if Im on the jury. 2600:1702:AC1:3BA0:8DB:1F30:8D14:FE09 (talk) 16:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Because Kelly was convicted of murdering a policeman. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Was he? The article says he "was convicted of the willful murder of Lonigan". Yes, he murdered someone who was a policeman, but it's not clear to me that the crime was different form murdering a non-policeman. The source is a book, so I can't check. HiLo48 (talk) 09:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Back in those days the police and government were very corrupt and they regarded non-police officers not as highly. Ned shooting the officers also showed that if he could kill some police officers then he could easily kill some commoners, so the people feared him. King kobra2 (talk) 10:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Reason for killing officers
I think that in the paragraph on the reasoning of Ned killing officers during stringybark incident there should be a mention that in Ned's letters he says that he only killed constable Kennedy because he saw the constable already shot multiple times and wanted to give him mercy. ( I would have edited it myself but I have already been for editing other pages badly, so hopefully someone else with more experience can do it King kobra2 (talk) 10:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)