Talk:Nefertiti Bust/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 17:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

shall be reviewing this page against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Quick fail criteria assessment
 * 1) The article completely lacks reliable sources – see Wikipedia:Verifiability.
 * 2) The topic is treated in an obviously non-neutral way – see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
 * 3) There are cleanup banners that are obviously still valid, including cleanup, wikify, NPOV, unreferenced or large numbers of fact, clarifyme, or similar tags.
 * 4) The article is or has been the subject of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars.
 * 5) The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.
 * 1) The article is or has been the subject of ongoing or recent, unresolved edit wars.
 * 2) The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.
 * 1) The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.
 * 1) The article specifically concerns a rapidly unfolding current event with a definite endpoint.

No problems with quickfail criteria. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose):
 * I have made a number of minor copy-edits, mostly to avoid repetitive phrasing. Please check.
 * CT scans: The CT scan in 2006 – led by Alexander Huppertz, the director of the Imaging Science Institute in Berlin, revealed a wrinkled face of Nefertiti carved in the inner core of the bust. I find this somewhat unclear. The phrase carved in the inner core of the bust. suggests that somehow a there is a secret inner sculpture. Could you try to rephrase this for clarity?
 * Yes. There was a secret inner sculptures like wrinkles, which was coated by stucco. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The 2009 scan provided greater detail than the 1992 one – revealing subtle details just 1–2 mm under the stucco. I thought that the second scan was in 2006 according to an earlier sentence. Or was there a third scan in 2009? If so then that should be stated.
 * Corrected. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Colors: I changed from Colours as the rest of the article uses American English spellings. copper oxide is a disambiguation page - which is meant - Copper(I) oxide or Copper(II) oxide?
 * I fixed one disambig (the other copper oxide is mentioned above, and several redirects in the wikilinking.
 * I do not know which link is appropriate. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem, that can be fixed later. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done; it's fixed now --Sat Ra (talk) 17:20, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
 * b (MoS):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references):
 * References check out. I assume GF for print sources.  But please add ISBN for books.
 * b (citations to reliable sources):
 * Is ref #3, The Ancient Egyptians for Dummies, a WP:RS?
 * Replaced. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 15:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its scope.
 * a (major aspects):
 * I note the comment on the talk page re the art history. There really isn't much of this in the article.  Is there more that can be sourced?
 * Please let me know what in art history specifically is needed, because the same info may be available in elsewhere in the article, without the title "art history". -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * When exactly the bust was created is not known (circa year given). Look and materials including colours are covered (the comment was before this part was added).
 * OK, that is fine. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * b (focused):
 * OK, that is fine. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * b (focused):


 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
 * b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * I note that the image File:Nefertiti 30-01-2006.jpg is essentially the same as that used in the infobox, File:Nofretete Neues Museum.jpg. I don't think it adds anything new to the artcile. Is it really necessary?
 * Removed. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * The article is nearly there. Please respond re my notes above.  I note that the nominator is busy for several days, so I will have a look in a week. On hold. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I feel taht the article is now worthy of GA status, although of course there is always more to be done. Passing as GA> Jezhotwells (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * The article is nearly there. Please respond re my notes above.  I note that the nominator is busy for several days, so I will have a look in a week. On hold. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I feel taht the article is now worthy of GA status, although of course there is always more to be done. Passing as GA> Jezhotwells (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Additional comments
 * The lead is really jumping around. Try to move "The bust has become..." out from between historical info.
 * Done. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:00, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * As Jez noted, some of the images are reundant, especially those two.
 * Done. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is coup in italics?
 * Done. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is mislead in quotation marks? That is what Borchardt claimed.
 * The document reveals there may have been a deliberate attempt to mislead. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That still doesn't make sense.


 * Why is secure shelters in quotation marks? They are secure shelters.
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * "Berlin’s Neues Museum, Museum Island" makes no sense. It should be "on Museum Island"
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Combine the sentences "In 1956..." and "There is was..."
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * (German Democratic Republic) is unnecessary
 * Official name. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Still unnecessary. We don't have to add Federal Republic of Germany when refering to the West or current country. A link to East Germany is sufficient.


 * "Nefertiti to Museum Island, East Berlin," -> "Nefertiti to Museum Island in East Berlin,"
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Why does "launched by cultural association, CulturCooperation, based in Hamburg, Germany." have a comme after association?
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * "...Neues Museum – her old home, the appropriateness..." should have either double dashes or double commas.
 * Johann Georg is a dab.
 * No article in dab. Seems to be relevant. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If none of the links in the dab is the right one, then delink it or pipe to an appropriate redlink.
 * fixed as well; according to this German article (a portrait) it's Prince Johann Georg of Saxony. Under: Ein Perspektivwechsel it is said: ‘... so wohnte er 1912 der Bergung der Büste der Nofretete bei ...’ (thus he took part at the excavation of the bust of Nefertiti). --Sat Ra (talk) 09:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You can remove the non-notable redlinks
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is queen in quotation marks?? That is what they personified her as.
 * Done -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:20, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Overall it is a very informative and referenced article! Reywas92 Talk 00:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Same about double dash/comma in sentence "By the 1970s,..."
 * How is it almost intact? Reywas92 Talk 22:10, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

For the disambiguations of copper oxide, asked Sat Ra, who added the colours para. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 16:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)