Talk:Neifi Pérez

Why the emphasis on batting average alone?
Average, by itself, is not a good indicator of offensive value. Saros136 (talk) 21:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Palin comment
I think the comment about Sarah Palin should be removed, as it is more about Palin than Perez. This article is supposed to be about baseball, not about politics. If Perez himself had expressed a political view, that would be one thing, but this is just some baseball writer giving his opinion on politics. That article "might" possibly be pertinent to the Palin page, but it is not to this one. I don't think it even gives broader significance at all because it really does not have much to do with Perez. Its broader significance is really something that is not even significant to Perez. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm OK with having it in there. The article is supposed to be about Perez, not just baseball or just politics. Also, the paragraph just isn't about Nate Silver's comments. It has another from a Chicago writer regarding his offensive futility. Some of the comments could be better sourced or toned-down, such as "He was widely criticized because of his low on-base percentage (career .297) and lack of power." — X96lee15 (talk) 14:06, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I should clarify I'm not concerned about the whole paragraph, just Silver's comment about Palin. The Chicago comment should stay. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 15:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nate Silver's a prominent writer, and an expert about both politics and baseball who always chooses his words carefully. When discussing a player's legacy, for better or for ill, that's the sort of comment you're looking for. See also Mendoza Line for another example (more prominent) of a baseball concept crossing into other areas. Mackensen (talk) 18:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Since this article is about Perez, and not about Palin, why don't we reword the statement so that it just mentions Perez? We could easily say, "Nate Silver wrote that Perez's statistics indicated he had a negative impact on the teams he played for." Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 11:44, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Why dilute it? The direct quotation is more interesting and has a greater impact. Mackensen (talk) 12:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't find the direct quote more interesting, although it does have a greater impact--on Palin, not on Pérez. As nobody has solidly disagreed about paraphrasing it, and as the nominator of this article, I am going to paraphrase it. Thanks to all who commented, though, I am paraphrasing it instead of removing it entirely, my original intent. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 11:52, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; the paraphrase works for me. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 16:09, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

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Amphetamine use
Neifi Pérez's amphetamine use is well-documented. When I wrote the article in 2008 I worked from newspapers that I had access to through Lexis-Nexis Academic such as the Detroit Free Press, which is cited in the text. I don't know what terms is using when searching, but stories such as this one from ESPN or this one from the New York Times came up right away. It was a pretty big deal at the time. Mackensen (talk) 03:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)