Talk:Neill Log House

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Information was edited which was erroneous. The Neal Family were not squatters. They were farmers and surveyors and applied for land patents which were returned - accepted. Also the Pittsburgh Bulletin is not copyright, it now considered public domain. It is a wonderful addition to the wikipedia page. Johnmikaljames (talk) 02:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I was not referring to the Bulletin article but to the text copied from the National Park Service website. However, that apparently is also public domain so apologies for calling it a copyright violation. However your proposed text still has serious problems. Please see Reliable sources and No original research. Your edits changed referenced information, derived from published sources, to unreferenced, unverifiable information which is not supported by any published source as far as I am aware. Worse, you left the existing citations intact, giving the false appearance that your work was properly referenced. If your claims regarding e.g. the age of the building, correct spelling of the name, etc., are supported by an actual, reliable published source, please provide such information. Also, the Bulletin article is a romanticized retelling of a probably apocryphal story and not appropriate to stand alone in the article text. This presents the events described as fact when (at best) they are most likely highly embellished. Camerafiend (talk) 13:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No, you are misunderstanding.  My information does have References and is verified.  I am making the page MORE accurate. I am attempting to update it and add correct information but I do not know how to add sources, could you help me add the sources, rather than reverting what I am trying to correct.
 * For example, I have the sources for the dates Robert purchased the land, the dates of the warrant applications and so on. I have emailed all of this to the Squirrel hill historical society explaining that he was NOT a squatter, because they have a fundamental misunderstanding of the warrant and patent process.  The Squirrel Hill historical society is meeting this week to update the website and remove that erroneous information.  Also is not true to state the house was built in 1795 just because the log was dated to that date. That is conjecture.  All that is known factually from that information is that the log came from that date.  The MORE accurate statement is what I updated - that the log is from 1795, that Robert Neal purchased the land in 1779 and it is is documented that when he sold the cabin and land in 1795 that there had been "substantial improvements" to the property - i.e. - the cabin was built by then, but there is no way to say for sure when, so the accurate statement is that the cabin could have been built anywhere between 1765 - 1790.
 * Can you please help me learn how to add the sources verifying the facts? Johnmikaljames (talk) 00:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)