Talk:Nelson Frazier, Jr./Archive 1

Best rack in wrestling
I mean, seriously! Look at those titties! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.213.251.93 (talk) 01:46, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Fracturing Undertaker's orbital bone
"taking turns dropping legs across the Undertaker's face with Yokozuna until they (kayfabe) fractured his orbital bone"

This is incorrect. The fracture to Undertaker's orbital bone was legit, so not a work/kayfabe! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.81.226.215 (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC) actually the kayfabe referred to the leg drops breaking it. in the book unscripted he said he took a clothesline from mabel that basically ended up as a fist in the eye, and it was at such a high impact that it broke. they used the leg drops as an excuse to write him out so he could heal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.98.151.159 (talk) 00:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

First African American Hardcore Champion?
How was he the first african american hardcore champion if tazz had the belt before him...?
 * Tazz is actually Italian, not black. It's a common misconception. Ron Simmons thought Tazz was black at first, too. --- SHODAN 02:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Billing height
Why is Viscera at 6'9? Kane is taller than Viscera.

kanes billed at 6'11 viscera is billed at 6'9 glen jacobs is 6'8 1/2 (6'9) Nelson Frazier is 6'7

Why is he billed 6'7" here, he is billed 6'9" in WWE and in reality is 6'6.5"
 * Good catch. I've changed the billed height to 6'9" Do you have a source for him being 6' 6 1/2" in real life? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou, yes I have a source: http://www.celebheights.com/s/-Viscera-3521.html - I hope you find this useful as this site is very reliable and many members including myself have found evidence he is around 6'6-6'7 so 6'6.5 sounds most accurate, maybe we can add this to the page? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xela2991 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Viscerape
wasn't the Visagra also called the Viscerape at some point?
 * it wasn't an official name but some ppl did call it that --- Paulley 10:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

King of the Ring Championship Belt
Reggie Parks designed a King of the Ring title for Mabel/Vis, so shouldn't this be mentioned?

I added a trivia section, with a mention of the KOTR title. Was unsure if it is better suited as a mention under his King of the Ring win (see list of championship and accomplishments).See reggie parks site for citation, http://www.midwestwrestling.com/championshipbelts/kotr.htm --Captain Capatilism 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It was already mentioned in the career section.. so i have removed the trivia section --- Paulley

Ok no problem.--Captain Capatilism 21:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Year of Birth
It's 1972 as far as I know??
 * Can you source that?? --- Paulley

User:203.55.230.103
 * This caught my eye, so I looked it up, then sourced it. Cheers, B mg 9 1 6  Speak to Me 18:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok cool, thanxs for the sourcing -- Paulley

first run in ECW
why is there no mention of Nelson Frazier, Jr first run in ECW he was in the company from 1990 to 1995
 * Maybe because that's not actually true? How do I know? ECW didn't even exist in 1990, q.e.d. MPJ-DK 13:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * He did have a one-shot appearence after his first WWF run.

Biography assessment rating comment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 08:33, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Original ECW Run
It is true. I saw Vis in ECW. He was also known as King Mabel on Memphis Pro Wrestling (or whatever it was called). But his new gimmick in ECW just makes him look like Bastion Booger or Abdullah the Butcher. A big fat guy jammed into a suit that's 2 sizes too small. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.39.25 (talk • contribs)

Heel Turn
In 2007 it says Charlie Haas and Viscera turned on Lillian it fails to mention that he also turned heel. And under ECW shouldn't it state that he resumed his Heel position. Thebiggestwwefan 21:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)DariusThebiggestwwefan 21:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The both of them are kind of suggestive. He's more a mercenary now, and for the earlier one he wasn't much of a face to turn from.«»bd(talk stalk) 23:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

BIG DADDY V DROP
That's what his finisher is called, you got to respect that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)
 * And it's listed.«»bd(talk stalk) 23:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have a problem with this and it is that the WWE.com website doesn't seem to tell us which of his moves is called the Big Daddy V Drop. And all four of his listed finishers could be interpretted as a "drop" of some sort.  Especially since he has yet to use a big splash since becoming Big Daddy V.  Sevenzeroone says: Poopy is not fun! 06:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That because he hasen't even had a match! —Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)


 * Actually, he has, and he didn't use a finish. That you added the "Big Daddy V Drop" as a different move than it was before kinda goes to exactly what Sevenzeroone said above. There's no reason it can't stay off until what it is is confirmed.«»bd(talk stalk) 15:23, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Why did somebody change it's name to the Gheto Drop? I don't remember it ever being called that, and his WWE.com profile makes no mention of the name. So who changed it, and why? I'm changing it back.-Blackmachismo131 (talk) 03:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Big Daddy V's first match on ECW
The information on Big Daddy V's first match in ECW was deleted because it was not notable? I would think that a first match on a different brand or company would be notable especially with a new gimmick Jdblundell 21:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The gimmick introduction is in there, the match the next week has no bearing on anything. I'd wager dollars to doughnuts that he squashes another jobber this week and it'll be just as not notable.«»bd(talk stalk) 22:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Boogeyman
Should it be noted in the ECW section that it looks like he's going to be undertaking a feud with The Boogeyman? It's a safe assumption given the results of last night's ECW on SciFi, but I'm weary of adding it until I hear from a reliable source (Scherer, Meltzer etc.) about it. Th 2005 22:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Meltzer, a reliable source? 82.4.71.30 14:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought
I thought it was the Big Daddy V Drop? AquariusBoy01 11 August 2007


 * Which is? As soon as the name is given a move it'll be added.«»bd(talk stalk) 14:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay. AquariusBoy01 11 August 2007

Vandalism
4 the last 4 days this article has been vandilised read the paragraph above of the moves i fixed some of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex dang (talk • contribs) 02:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Kick Ass Wresting
Back in the mid-90's he also worked in Memphis, TN for Kick Ass Wresting that was ran by Terry Golden. Terry previously ran Memphis_Championship_Wrestling. I dont know if there is much to be found on the web to substantiate this fact someone with more knowledge in that area might find something on this. --Silik0nJesus (talk) 07:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Question
In the article, it states he suffered his first pinfall loss in the Survivor Series match, which isn't entirely true. Hes been pinned plenty of times, but I believe this is the first pinfall loss since he moved to ECW, and therefore should be noted accordingly...Taker04 13:20, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Big Daddy V and Viscera are separate characters played by the same man. In kayfabe, they are completely different people. Gavyn Sykes 14:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I understand that, but it was just worded wrong. It should say that it is his first pinfall loss since he moved to ECW - because this page is about the man that plays the characters, not the characters themselves. Am I right or am I right?Taker04 11:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure they're classing him as the same person, just with a different personality/gimmick/whatever. I may be wrong though. Arrowny (talk) 19:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It turns out I was wrong, I was basing my previous post of on-air commentary and such. V's WWE.com profile still recognizes his World Tag and Hardcore title wins as well as his King of the Ring win, but no mention of the names "Mabel" and "Viscera" are present. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Weight Gain?
Frazier is now billed as 502lb. on the WWE website. Frazier has lost a significant amount of weight since returning to wrestling.