Talk:Nemo's Garden (Noli)

Educational Project Page
This page is part of an Educational Project by students of LIUC, Italy, with a course page at: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/LIUC_-_Universit%C3%A0_Cattaneo/Digital_Technology_(Autumn,_2021) The users of the group are new to the Wikipedia platform and are learning to edit following Wikipedia rules. They are open to any advice on improvements of the page in conformity to Wikipedia requirements and guidelines, and any help useful for the enhancement of the page will be gladly accepted. The student User names are:
 * Team3LIUCANASTASIIA
 * Team3LIUCALICE
 * Team3LIUCMATTEO
 * Team3LIUCLEO
 * Team3LIUCGloria
 * Team3LIUCNICOLA Limelightangel (talk) 11:41, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

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Location
Hello guys, can please someone find details on the location? thanksTeam3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 09:12, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

You want to mention something except the city and coordinates?
 * I just added few things about it Team3LIUCLEO (talk) 13:41, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Drafts and notes (will put here all the info - take it if you need it it for your part)
Team3LIUCANASTASIIA (talk) 17:02, 5 November 2021 (UTC)Team3LIUCANASTASIIA

Possible resources Taken from webpage:
 * During 2015, the number of people involved in this project on a voluntary basis increased and the underwater habitat grew bigger and bigger. By this time, Nemo's Garden was composed of: four 800-liter biospheres, one 2,000-liter biosphere, two 50-liter biospheres and a 2,000-liter rigid biosphere. This was a very important year for our project, with an increase in the number of biospheres in a variety of shapes, sizes and materials and more than thirty new crops. We also experienced a sharp surge in media exposure, also driven by our participation in the Milan EXPO2015! - check the page of expo

By creating the first underwater cultivation of terrestrial plants at Nemo’s Garden, the Ocean Reef group is pioneering an alternative agriculture system that could increase food security in coastal areas where environmental conditions, geological characteristics, and climate vulnerability make the pursuit of profitable and reliable local agriculture complex. - good phrase- needs paraphrase

challenges - rough sea during winter ( damages 2 times) - sun exposure is lacking during winter times - add more about destilation- water usage etc(second source)

Resources which I've checked 1. DailyMail 2. Lampoon https://lampoonmagazine.com/nemos-garden-underwater-farming-luca-gamberini/ 3. The furrow https://thefurrow.co.uk/nemos-garden/

Future possibilities

 * pharmaceutical companies willing to expand the alternative solutions for growing plants
 * eco-tourism
 * fish farming
 * seaweeed farming
 * scientific research
 * creation of underwater stations for monitoring underwater wildlife

Principles of usage
usage of renewable energy from the sun + distillated fresh seawater. Biosphere do not require additional energy sources. Nemo's garden built condensers for distillation of seawater into fresh water ''New horizontal hydroponic systems were installed in combination with the vertical one. Placed on the shelves inside each biospheres, this new setup gave us the chance to grow up to 90 plants per biosphere.'' (needs paraphrasing)

Electricity of solar installation

People
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 * founder: Sergio Gamberini (also founder of Ocean reef group - check is there page about them)
 * project coordinator: Gianni Fantanesi
 * Do we need sponsors?

Coordinates and infobox fix
Hey guys, i just corrected the coordinates and added an image in the infoboxTeam3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 13:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

New section added
I've added future projects contentTeam3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 14:13, 9 November 2021 (UTC) Hu guys I have added more contenct in this sectionTeam3LIUCALICE (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Introduction
Hey guys I added the introduction to the page. It's a small summary of what the project is and the people involved. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 14:17, 9 November 2021 (UTC) I added the location in the introduction as well and referenced it.Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 14:26, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

improvements needed
1. add "see also" links 2. add external links 3. add scuba diving section and dive map 4. fix and add references 5. overall more content 6. move pics 7. create links-in 8. fix grammar Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 15:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC) Hey guys I have edited the page and rephrased some sentences in both the design and history section. Let me know if by rephrasing something I have changed the meand and overall proof read what I have changed. I also tried to change the location of the images but it doesn't let me. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 17:50, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey guys I just finished reviewing some of the parts that were recently added. Let me know if you are ok with everything i have edited Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 18:40, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

I tried rewriting and adding more info to the introduction and took down the part about the main pillars. I also tried adding more reference and took down the ones that were doubles so check if I have deleted one of yours. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 17:24, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

what still needs to be done is : more content on the tree of life, overall grammar and phrasing check, more images if possible, fix and add references. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC) As of today the improvements needed are: 1. add content for the new "physical and chemical properties", rewrite the section " sustainable impact" in the right sections. 3. add photos to the gallery 4. overall add more pics. 5. more content in the "design" section Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:09, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I have added more content in the "structure and working principles" section and decided to delete the new section we had created called " physical and chemical principles" because it ended up being very repetitive. I have added a reference for the text I added but I feel like more should be added. As of today we still need to add more pictures and the content for the "photo gallery". Also the content in the "sustainable impact" sections still needs to be rewritten in the appropriate sections. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 22:59, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft review 15/11/21

 * Categories: needs more.  More categories were added Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * References are inadequate in number, format and quality. See Citation templates.  None of the existing references are correct. Ref. 1 is incorrect. and requires the original article reference and the multiple authors (G. Dini, E. Princi, S. Gamberini and L. Gamberini, "Nemo's Garden: Growing plants underwater," OCEANS 2016 MTS/IEEE Monterey, 2016, pp. 1-6, doi: 10.1109/OCEANS.2016.7761335.), not a single author and the website the abstract is on. The Cite Article template has not been used correctly - see Template:Cite journal. Ref. 2 is poor quality; Ref. 3 has not used the Cite Web template correctly, see Template:Cite web, omits the author, and ignores earlier feedback. Refs. 4  and 7 are to the same reference, which is duplicated - use Ref name in the template. Refs 5 and 6 omit information like the publisher, and use the Cite Web template incorrectly. Use a consistent format: some specify 'in Italian', other do not - which is the correct reference format for non-English references?


 * External links section is poor and not been understood. See External links. Do not just list urls. There are only 2, 1 is in Italian, and the purposes are unclear.   we tries correcting them and added moreTeam3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Missing content: the section on diving has no content. I added some content let me know if it need more or if it's not rightTeam3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Image captions: See Manual_of_Style/Captions.  Captions need to be clear in terms of location and differentiation.
 * I managed to fix the captions of the images. Team3LIUCNICOLA (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2021.


 * Linking out: some examples of 'over-linking' e.g. 'modern farming'.  See Manual_of_Style/Linking.


 * style: See the relevant sections in Manual of Style, particularly related to measurement (meters, feet, etc.). Remove and avoid words like 'moreover (twice), 'nowadays', 'even', '3 pillars', 'indeed', etc.


 * introduction: look at Summary style. This summary needs to succinctly establish notability and the topic. There are only 2 references, and the '3 pillars' is irrelevant here or elsewhere. I deleted the section about the pillars and tried fixing it, let me now if it's ok now.Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:31, 17 November 2021 (UTC)


 * grammar: there are a wide range of very basic errors that need to be fixed and checked in the future e.g. italian, greek, english, centre, erbs, lover end of the bubble', 'it consists in', etc.


 * external links in the text. See External links.  These are not normally included in the article text, and are much better in the External Links section, if relevant.


 * content: where is the Bay of Noli? how big is it? what is the 'tree of life'? what is the marine ecosystem here? the sea depth? etc. There is some duplicate content e.g. on distance from shore, etc. added more information Team3LIUCANASTASIIA

Limelightangel (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
 * use of Talk page: edit the existing page. Some posts are still unsigned, ignoring my feedback on this on the Talk page.  The style is inappropriate e.g. 'hey guys', etc. See Talk page guidelines.  The page is for discussion and responses, not simply to say 'I have done this' - this is shown in the page stats, and is not 'talk'.  Use the page to respond and check tasks off. Some sections are meaningless, and will be seen by page reviewers.  Tidy them up so it is clear what they are for, who they are from, and try to respond with ideas, discussion and responses.

Update
Hi guys, we might be almost done with content. Just need to have a focused group check on grammar mistakes and general corrections. I suggest we might do it Wednesday afternoon in person.Team3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 09:49, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi guys, I just uploaded some pictures in the photo gallery. Tomorrow I'll try to upoade a couple more, to put the horizontal ones in one row and the vertical ones in another and to differentiate the titles a little bit.Team3LIUCGloria (talk) 00:38, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi guys, I uploaded the photos. Check if everything is good.Team3LIUCGloria (talk) 19:38, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Now that the page has been approved, one of the issues reported was that the lead was too long, so I tried summing it up an taking out irrelevant info. Another issue is the phrasing that is too much like an essay, so I also tried fixing that for the lead section.Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 11:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC) The issue about the lead section was removed so we succesfully faced that problem, some still need to be faced. To be able to apper on the first page on google when somebody look up "Nemo's Garden" we need to add more links.Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

The bullet points were removed as suggested in the wikipedia layout guidelines. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 14:11, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

The article has been rewritten and reorganized to comply with wikipedia regulations. waiting for further reviws. Team3LIUCALICE (talk) 16:46, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Session 25/11
Guys, tomorrow afternoon meeting on Teams for a review of the project and presentation.Team3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 11:17, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Power Point Presentation
Guys, just sent the final power point presentation to your mail inboxes.Team3LIUCMATTEO (talk) 07:51, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

COI tag (December 2021)
Several editors co-ordinating with almost similar names: i) Team3LIUCGloria ii) Team3LIUCMATTEO iii) Team3LIUCALICE iv) Team3LIUCLEO v) Team3LIUCANASTASIIA vi) Team3LIUCGloria QuantumRealm  (meow • pawtrack) 09:31, 7 December 2021 (UTC)