Talk:Neopets/Archive 6

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Some minor edits
In the Neopets section, it states: monthly fee of $7.99 But it should mention that's in US Dollars. In the "Gameplay" section it states: Awards can also be won for fighting in the Battledome against NPCs. For instance, when going against Punchbag Bob a player will receive a trophy when defeating him Too much information? Perhaps it should just say Awards such as trophies can also be won for fighting in the Battledome against NPCs. In the "Site Content" section it states the default theme is Neopets Yellow. It's actually called Neopets Basic.

Connectionfailure (talk) 09:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Agreed on all...so why not make the changes :) AnmaFinotera (talk) 09:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Neopets Mobile
May I ask why people deleted the 'Coco Roll' Section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HiddenOne (talk • contribs) 19:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The article doesn't a game guide for Neopets, its supposed to be an encyclopedic overview. It already has an excessive amount of game material rather than discussion it as a whole. AnmaFinotera (talk) 19:52, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Neopets's multiplayer game KeyQuest
The KeyQuest things are on the site itself:

http://www.neopets.com/keyquest/whatis.phtml

--RomanceIrane (talk) 11:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

UK English
If Neopets is headquartered in the US, why i the website in UK English? 64.246.251.13 (talk) 02:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Because Neopets was originally released in the United Kingdom and uses UK English. AnmaFinotera (talk) 03:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No, Neopets wasn't "released" in the UK first. Neopets was launched globally, the reason it uses British English is because the founders are British and extremely stubborn about language and grammar.  It was aimed at a global market from the start.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.168.194 (talk) 17:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Their own published history disagrees. Irregardless, it was started in the UK and uses UK English itself, so the article will use it as well. AnmaFinotera (talk) 17:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

it should be noted that neopets will be neostudios
neostudios will be the name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.136.246.195 (talk) 03:37, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Not true. Neopets will be included in a larger company called Neostudios. Neopets itself won't change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.58.239.249 (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

But Neopets Itself has already changed. It now includes ads, commercial games etc. It has become more of a profit-making site then alot of other games sites. There is also the addition of customisation, and now Quest Tokens. As for the name change, it is possible. I don't think anyone knows what will happen next, it therefore cannot be ruled out. Lizzles7272 (talk) 08:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Partial reversion, etc.
I partially reverted March 15th edits. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  02:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) The Neopets press kit has Dohring as the founder of the company. The company was incorporated in February 2000, but began business in April.
 * 2) The second reversion patches what appears to be contradictory or a split in reference. This article states that it was profitable since last summer from December 2001, which would be Summer 2000 (July 2000 by the press kit), which isn't late 2000, unless there's something else that states otherwise? The article also states that advertisers were brought in for immersive advertising as opposed to traditional advertising methods.

Neopets and Scientology
Is there a link between neopets and the cult of $cientology? Chump Manbear (talk) 12:34, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Kinda. Doug Dohring, who is a $cientologist, owned the site for a while before selling it off to Viacom. 122.107.192.67 (talk) 04:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What kind of a question is this? Thesis, warrants, and evidence for such a theory, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michelle192837 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * A good question my furry friend.Chump Manbear (talk) 19:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought there was something about $cientology in this article a few months ago. Now it seems that's been deleted. Odd. - Jack&#39;s Revenge (talk) 11:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well, the connection still can be found at Neopets, Inc.. - Jack&#39;s Revenge (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I doubt this applies anymore. The $cientology thing should be deleted. Mumblebot (talk) 12:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, that was my mistake when reverting. I reverted to one revision before the one intended. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  19:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) Mumblebot (talk) 01:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Possibility of COI
I thought I would bring this up. 74.211.150.58 (talk · contribs) originates from Meteor Games, a company headed by Adam Powell and Donna Williams. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  23:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up. :) AnmaFinotera (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

2009 movie?
IMDB has a page for something called The Lost Tomb: A Neopets Adventure with a release date of April 20, 2009. Does anyone know anything about this, and have there been any press releases about it? Esn (talk) 19:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as we know, it doesn't exist. In production doesn't mean anything. They continually push the date forward and there's only an oblique mention of it on the Neopets website that says Winter 2010. (And it's on a partially obscured page.) -- Squids ' and ' Chips  21:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, if a reliable source said that it was "in production", that actually would mean something. That's already a stage up from "pre-production", and would likely merit a mention here. IMDB is not considered a reliable source, though, so I was wondering if there was some news release about this. Esn (talk) 08:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Just because it is on a partially obscured page means nothing. And, it also seems the page was deleted (from the site, of course) Regardless, I think I should add it. How about:

"Though there is no official evidence, rumors suggest that there may be an upcoming Neopets movie coming out in winter 2010. However, the only sources that can verify this is the site itself, on partially obscured page (though it may be merely a joke by the staff) and an unreliable website."

Any objections or suggestions? Mumblebot (talk) 02:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose. We aren't a rumor mill and unless/until it can be verified by multiple reliable sources, it doesn't belong. AnmaFinotera (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

...Okay, I agree to that cause. Mumblebot (talk) 04:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah. Fudge again. I thought I had an inkling it was mentioned somewhere: I think I may have a few more but nothing recent (since 2007). -- Squids ' and ' Chips  03:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "Warner Bros. is developing a Neopets feature film." December 2005
 * "In March, Neopets signed a deal with Warner Bros. Pictures to create animated feature films." February 2006
 * "Neopets Inc. is in talks to develop videogames, cellphone games and even a feature film for the virtual menagerie." February 2005
 * "It even inked a cross-promotional deal with McDonald’s to include a small version of the Neopets plushies in Happy Meals, and recently announced a pact with Warner Bros. Pictures to develop and produce animated feature films based on the characters and virtual world of Neopets." April 2005
 * "Warner Bros. Pictures has hired scribe Rob Lieber to pen the first CG-animated feature resulting from the studio's pact with popular kids Web site NeoPets." February 2006 (but this page has a glaring error.)

Potential rewrite
I pretty much haven't touched this article in a while since it's... I don't really need to say it. But I will raise several points: and that is all for now, but that is not to say that I don't have something to say for the other sections of this article, because what I've listed is not much like a potential rewrite. I'm sure I'm partially responsible for points 1 and 3. I'd do something about it, but my mind is pretty taxed right now. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  01:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) For the sake of neutrality, cut the section title "Criticism" and leave "Gambling-based issues" where it is or merge it into "Immersive advertising" or "Games". As it stands, the "Criticism" section stands for nothing but a blurb of everything said somewhere else and it only raises a point that there is criticism. done, insofar as it's moved and removed -- Squids ' and ' Chips  02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Cut the "Community" section into pretty much four or five paragraphs with one on each current subsection. done -- Squids ' and ' Chips  23:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Expand "Immersive advertising" since the section is comparatively small and it's the most widely cited controversial aspect of Neopets because it is considered marketing to children, which in and of itself is controversial. Although, currently, immersive advertising is pretty much a new "sponsor games" everyday, even though there was more varied immersive content in the past.
 * 4) Include section on surveys if there are sources to be found . (Neopets used to and might still have surveys where users get Neopoints for filling them out. Even had a Survey Shack, but that's gone. Possibly related to immersive advertising.) done insofar as surveys are part of immersive advertising. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  23:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 5) Include something about banner advertisements if there are sources to be found since the site is littered with them even though it wasn't so at the beginning. (Also possibly related to immersive advertising.)
 * 6) And a minor? somewhat unrelated note, but everyone under Kyra Reppen pretty much no longer works for Neopets, Inc. There isn't a source to the contrary that's not a mirror/fork of WikiP, so they should probably be removed. done, but page probably still in need of update. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  23:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The "Exclusive content" section was gutted, mostly, and looking rather feeble. I moved the Neopets Magazine out since it didn't belong either under "Exclusive content" or the previous header, "Pay features" and would better fit a Merchandise section. I plan to re-add Neopets Inc. back into this article with a few improvements. Of note are, at the very least, Neopets
 * Cross-promotion with McDonald's
 * foray into video games from an internet medium
 * plush and other toys
 * TCG
 * There may be more but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Neopets Magazine would probably go under that, but I'm not sure since it's one of those complete unsourced sections. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Dead citations
Ah fudge. Some of the Neopets citations no longer work because of dead links and the like. A few things may need to be removed (the bits about Adam and Donna) or rewritten (the other bits). These are citations that are currently numbered: If anyone can find suitable replacements, that would be great. I believe a few of them probably can't be replaced. I discovered that they didn't work on 5 June 2008 (UTC) (although I figure they stopped working longer ago than that), but I didn't figure that out until today. Trying to figure out what to do with them.-- Squids ' and ' Chips  02:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 3
 * 4
 * 7
 * 12
 * 16
 * 25
 * 28


 * Whoa...I did quite a bit of rewrite in the history not too long ago, including the refs, so the ones from there must have died relatively recently. I'll see if I can find where they were moved to. BTW, thanks for taking the initiative on cleaning up this article! Its such a daunting thing, most just kinda acknowledge it needs it but do nothing. I've only pecked at it some myself while hacking away at all the side stuff. :P -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, archive URLs added for all. Just glad they were hit before Neopets started blocking archiving :P -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:13, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fixing the dead links. I couldn't get the Wayback Machine to work for some reason. I don't mind tackling this "Battledome opponent", but it wears me down after a while. It's probably my third go at it and hopefully I can take it down this time. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  22:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hackings
Is there a plan to include the hackings of the site? 76.170.11.100 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Unless there is reliable sourcing to show their existance, no. AnmaFinotera (talk) 23:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Well the hackings definitely happened. I'm sure if we looked we could find some screenshots. I thought that the hacks used to be mentioned. (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 02:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No, screenshots are not a valid source. Again, it must be a reliable source discussing the site being hacked before it can even be considered for addition. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 03:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

"fictional persistent world"?
I came across this phrase in the "Environment" section and I'm having trouble with it. The way I see it: Metaverse, I can understand. It's a virtual world that's fictional. Then I realized that I see that "world" is used in two, if not more (or less), different senses, but maybe I'm too far up the meanings of the words. Neopia is a real "persistent world", a virtual domain, as a synecdoche for the entire site. It is also a real "fictional world", a fictional planet, with respect to the actual planet of Neopia. I'm not sure if there should to be a comma in there ("fictional, persistent world") or if it should be rewritten.
 * A persistent world is a virtual world and therefore a real "virtual world".
 * A fictional persistent world is a fictional virtual world and therefore a fictional "virtual world".

The first sense flows into the rest of the paragraph: "Neopia itself has several worlds, similar to continents, which have their own themes. Within each world, users will usually find unique shops, games, items, and activities based around that world's theme. Larger worlds may have several regions or levels." Also, they aren't so much as continents but nations. I've reworded it and replaced world with land as they have it on the site now. -- Squids ' and ' Chips  23:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

jelly world
should i add content to this article about lelly world? or do you think that it would sound like an addvertisment?Hawkey131 (talk) 15:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No. Its unnecessary game detail, hence its previous removal. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 16:09, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as I am aware it is nothing more than one very small subsection of Neopets. Unless you find a link with special information on it, or a special reason why Wikipedia should include it in this article I see no reason for it to be included. --mauler90 (talk) 10:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Meteor Games
Is this worth a mention or is it too nominal? -- Squids ' n ' Chips  16:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't think it is something that would go here...maybe as a follow up in Neopets, Inc.? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 17:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, that's done. -- Squids ' n ' Chips  19:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Other partners
See paragraph five of. Also see past discussion Talk:Neopets/Archive_2 and following sections. Nothing came of that discussion. Donna is obviously on of the partners, but the other two are unnamed in the article. Would it suffice to include "two other partners"? -- Squids ' n ' Chips  18:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Is there any other reliable source that mentions there being 3 partners at the start? -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 01:08, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Not that I've found. Stuff from back then is hard to find and I don't have the means or the money to look through archives. I doubt there's anything current other than primary sources. -- Squids ' n ' Chips  20:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If I know of articles (article name, journal, etc), I may be able to get them free through the Texas A&M Library. I'll check Google's news archives. I just sent them like 6 requests for articles for The Young Riders because all the archives are all "OMG, pay me stupid prices for that one article" (~grumbles about greedy newspapers~). :P -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 23:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm looking more at full archive access. It's not so much the contents as much as it is finding something. The things that come up in a search are mostly rubbish. And I've found quite a few "archived" articles that the same website also hosted for free. o_O ...? Then, there is the Ottawa Citizen which had a few articles on Neopets going as far back as that 2000 article, but their archive search and back issues only go to the last four weeks. -- Squids ' n ' Chips  01:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Parental Permission
I added some things about the parental permission...I need to add some more later. If anyone else could help add, that would be great. Fireheart7397 (talk) 23:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Its been removed. Nothing that needs that much detail at all. This is not a game play guide. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Donna and Adam redirect
Ever heard of Twin Skies? They haven't been a part of neopets in years. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to fix this...


 * They redirect here because neither is a notable person and their articles were deleted. Twin Skies is not a particularly notable site yet either, so right now most folks looking for them would be doing so in association with Neopets. Only other alternative is to just delete it all together. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 14:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

key quest
what about the key quest game? I've played it before.-Warriorscourge (talk) 04:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject videogames assessment
I've increased the rating to B, not a rock-solid B but getting there. Here's some suggestions:
 * Gameplay does not adequately convey the 'point' of the game, yes you can make a pet, care for it and enter it into fights, but what are players aiming to do? The section is tiny in comparison to the site content are (which contains some gameplay data).
 * The history section is very good, but would preferably be named development and be situated after gameplay rather than before it.
 * Reception is lacking reviews etc., it does carry good data in terms of user numbers, but needs some reaction to gameplay.
 * The entire 'site content' section is confused, in a section like this I'd expect to read about things outside of the game itself, yet the 'neopets', 'environment' and 'economy' subsections contain gameplay data. At the start of it there is irrelevant details ("The site includes a navigation bar along the top of the page.."), it just doesn't fit together very well. I'd suggest merging relevant data to gameplay (under subheadings if they're needed) and merging 'site content''s intro, 'exclusive content' and 'community' into a single section.
 * Images are a weak area in the article. The shot of the webpage isn't needed in the infobox since the logo does all that's needed in identifying the game. The room shot is.. well to say it's unspectacular is an understatement. Is that all players can expect to see, or can the pets be shown in the room along with more furniture? I'm non-plussed over the neoboard topic image - what are readers supposed to be gaining from this image? Boards have topics, it's a board and it has topics, an image is not needed to convey that, particularly not a whacking great fair use image. I'd suggest getting rid of the webpage one from the infobox and the boards one altogether, finding a better room image if possible and adding a few gameplay images instead.
 * The lead's pretty good, but would need a few more details from reception regarding the actual gameplay (assuming you can find some).
 * Watch out for really short paragraphs and merge them if at all possible.
 * Try to position citations after punctuation marks rather than leaving them floating amongst the text. Keep sewing up any loose ends with additional cites.

You might want to consider going for a peer review or resubmitting it to assessments before going for a GA push. Someoneanother 20:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "Gameplay does not adequately convey the 'point' of the game, yes you can make a pet, care for it and enter it into fights, but what are players aiming to do?"

We might have a problem about that. Fitting you should point that out first in the list of things this article is lacking. With Tamagotchi, which is mentioned in comparison to Neopets in this article, the point is clear: Keep your pet well-fed and happy, and then do the same thing with their offspring. Repeat ad infinitum (sp?). Pokemon? Defeat leaders and find new Pokemon. With Neopets, that's different. Some people just aim to chat and be well-known, some want to be rich, some want to win spotlights, etc. The question is, should we add all of that in, making a very long and rambling gameplay section, or just skip over it all? Or just add a few points? If so, which ones? Until we've figured this issue out, maybe we could add bits about those using the hidden-comment tags or post them here or something. Thanks, Clem (talk) 04:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking that the ORIGINAL aim was to earn enough neopoints to keep you and your pet happy, (express your ideas creatively, make your pet desirable, keep it happy). Besides the original aim, a couple of extra motives to "succeed" in neopets should be included, such as fame, riches (not necessarily for spending), and/or trophies. 69.201.159.52 (talk) 22:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

"Techo" redirects here
Why is that? This word is not mentioned in the article. -- 217.230.198.25 (talk) 22:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Techo is a species of Neopet, which would be why it redirects here. Super Hamster (My Talk) (My Contributions) 02:48, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Bashing in Lead
I removed this from the lead: While the site has been praised for being "gentle" and educational, several issues such as immersive advertising and gambling-based games have garnered criticism. Adverts that break the site's own rules are displayed as soon as a person registers. Before logging in, the default page is presented with two adverts, usually displaying lingerie or online poker, but these display seemingly harmless Neopets games. These have garnered major concern and crtiscism from parents who want their children to be "protected from filth, especially on Neopets". It seems unlikely that the adverts will be taken down, as the site owners receieve a massive amount of money for them.


 * I don't think I need to explain way, it is pretty obvious.


 * Also, a little side note: I play everyday, and I never see lingerie or gambling ads. Derickl (talk) 00:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC) Derick
 * I see lingerie ads all the time. Neopets has no control over this because they have third party ad providers, so this bashing is REALLY unneccesary and whoever wrote it probaby sucks at the game or is a lowlife. Not to be super rude about it. 69.201.159.52 (talk) 22:44, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Semi-protection?
Out of curiosity, I checked the edit history page for the article and saw that most of the (frequent) vandalism was coming from people without accounts, and decided to propose semi-protection for the Neopets article against anonymous and new users. The vandalism is mostly easily fixed, but I don't see why we should just let ClueBot keep on reverting this page over and over again. I'm pretty sure semi-protection has been suggested before, but since I didn't see it on this talk page I wanted to post it. If it hasn't been suggested before, what's your opinion? If it has been, what was used to refute the protection? Thanks, Clem (talk) 01:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The page has been semi-protected during heavy vandalism, however in general, articles are not kept under it. It should almost always only be a temporary measure done during the worse times. Right now, there is not enough recent disturbance to justify making a request. To learn more about this, see Protection policy. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 02:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! Clem (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

There is something that needs to be said regarding Neopets banning all kinds of accounts with disregard for their TOS. There are BBB and other advocacy watchgroups with large files on Neopets because of all the frozen accounts for no reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.123.250 (talk) 05:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Donna?
From the little sidebar thing:

"Designer(s) 	Adam Powell"

From the lead:

"Neopets (originally NeoPets) is a virtual pet website launched by Adam Powell and Donna Williams."

Then shouldn't Donna be listed as one of the designers? She helped create the site as well. Thanks, Clem (talk) 17:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * She helped create it, but per the reliable sources Adam designed it. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If she helped create it she is a designer. Doesn't matter who the resources were. She co-designed it. The "reliable sources", Adam, and Donna should all receive credit. 69.201.159.52 (talk) 22:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not really. Anyone who understands the basics of web application development knows one person can design and another develop. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 23:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, as per Wired interview, 'Powell began coding the larval version of the Neopets site while Williams, an art student at the time, handled the graphic design' Therefore, shouldn't Donna be included in 'design' after all? Jibbles | Talk 04:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Merge
For some reason, there is an article on the company Neopets, Inc. as well as on the website. This seems entirely pointless, as the company is only notable for the website, and virtually all the content in that article is duplicated in this one anyway; I suggest that the articles be merged. Robofish (talk) 00:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Support...thought it was at one point, but must be misremembering. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 00:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Also support; not much additional information is in Neopets, Inc. than this article, and the rest can be merged. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 00:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, there's been no opposition in almost two months, so I'll carry out the merge. There's only one major bit which isn't in the main article, anyway - the Scientology section. (I'm not sure why it isn't here, but to avoid violating WP:AGF I won't speculate.) Robofish (talk) 02:28, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

help!
what about the handheld neopets???-- RIVER Babble at my brooks 23:24, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought that, at least at one point in time, those were mentioned; I guess not. Maybe I was dreaming. I'll add something about it in due time, and probably clean up the section along with it. Thanks, ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 18:19, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

NeoDex
There is an online encyclopedia somewhat like Wikipedia that has information of all things Neopets known as NeoDex, a division of the Neopets-related site Pinkpt. I am sure that you have a page on it, but I do not believe that it is mentioned anywhere on this page. Plus, I see it fit that off-topic chat on the NeoBoards should be at least touched on, since it runs rampant on several of the boards. I would do it myself, but when I came back from a short Wikipedia hiatus I realized I had no idea how to cite sources, which I would need. Pumagirl7 (talk) 16:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

If Pinpt was going to be put in the article, then several other sites would also have to be added as well as pet pages. Just to name a few, Sunnyneo, Jellyneo, The Daily Neopets, Neopets Fanatic. So if Pinkpt was to be added, then all the other Neopets websites would have to be added as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.199.60.136 (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Then perhaps there should be another section that had all of the Neopets help sites? Pumagirl7 (talk) 20:32, 20 March 2011 (UTC)


 * ...or perhaps people looking for Neopets help should use a search engine (Google, Bing, etc.) to find what they need. &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 03:46, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

4chan Raid
4chan is raiding the article, protect it please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.203.4.159 (talk) 05:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed, I think the page doesn't need protection right now though. Prodego  talk  05:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Krawk Island
Krawk Island Disappearance is listed as a plot, though Snarkie herself said that it was not a plot, but rather a transition.--Rainaleeks (talk) 17:05, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

List of plots
What on earth is this about?! This is unnecessary and too much information that does not need to be here. This article really needs a cleanup.. some fans are getting too excited by adding crap to this article. Hiya111 21:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree about the cleanup; the plot list, personal pages section, and stuff like that don't need to be here. Anyone needing to know in-depth gameplay info or help can go to the Neodex wiki, Jellyneo, or another fan site. Chevsapher (talk) 03:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I, too, agree; this article has gotten pretty messy and bloated. I guess a valid question is, "How to best go about fixing it?" &mdash; UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 07:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I took out the Plots/Events section and snipped a little bit of other unnecessary off. The entire Gameplay section is pretty bloated, though, and needs to be rewritten. And anther thing: shouldn't Nickelodeon Virtual Worlds Group be listed as the site owner and receive the Neopets, Inc. redirect?? Chevsapher (talk) 03:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Neopets, Inc. redirect
I would like to redirect Neopets, Inc. to Nickelodeon Kids & Family Virtual Worlds Group instead of this page, as it is the company's current name. Any objections/comments? Chevsapher (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Since no one seems to disagree, I'm planning on applying these changes soon. This will entail changing the Developer(s) and Publisher(s) to Nickelodeon Kids & Family Virtual Worlds Group and removing the Neopets, Inc. infobox, as the aforementioned page already includes an almost identical infobox. Chevsapher (talk) 14:26, 13 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I just went ahead and implemented all changes. This seemed like the best thing to do. Chevsapher (talk) 20:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Improving the article
Does anyone else still edit this regularly? I've been making some major changes to it over the last couple weeks to get this to be a better article, but I honestly can't walk the line between comprehensive and overly detailed. I've learned more about Neopets while editing this article than could or should be included and it's hard to draw the line sometimes. Some things still in need of improvement: I'm iffy about the Gameplay section. Gameplay is so broad with respect to Neopets that it's hard to maintain a comprehensive view without being too detailed. Also iffy about the History section with respect to Altador Cup. Not sure how many references are needed or what still needs references since it almost appears to be over-referenced. I'm a little too close to the article to be able to see any major problems, but I'm still working on the article as it still needs work. I'd like to be able to get this to good quality before a peer review and a GA push. Peer review would probably give a good outsider view. -- Squids  and   Chips  22:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Lead is lacking and needs to be rewritten, probably after the rest of the article finds its place.
 * Reception definitely still needs improvement.
 * Images relevant to the article needs to be added. The homepage screenshot doesn't seem to be pertinent and the NeoHome screenshot doesn't illustrate much. It could probably do with just two relevant images aside from the logo. More is probably too much since it's copyrighted content.
 * References need to be updated since I've found a few dead ones. Also, the Neopets site seems to have take out any mention of the original creators of the site. Since bots aren't allowed on those parts of the site, some information has been lost.

Seriously?
Part of the draw for girls are the cute Neopets.

Can this be either reliably sourced or removed? It's awfully sexist.

Agreed. If there is no objection, deletion should occur Houtz96 (talk) 01:50, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.250.210.163 (talk) 07:04, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Reception
Just making this as a open sandbox discussion about how we can improve the reception section. It's badly outdated, and could use some TLC. What does everyone think? Houtz96 (talk) 02:45, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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