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 * Doesn't seem Polish at all. Any references apart from the above page? [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 21:35, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't think the neuri are polish at all. Most of the material is derived right out of Herodotus's Histories.

Herodotus
Herodotus IV:'' Above the mart of the Borysthenites, which is situated in the very centre of the whole sea-coast of Scythia, the first people who inhabit the land are the Callipedae, a Greco-Scythic race. Next to them, as you go inland, dwell the people called the Alazonians. These two nations in other respects resemble the Scythians in their usages, but sow and eat corn, also onions, garlic, lentils, and millet. Beyond the Alazonians reside Scythian cultivators, who grow corn, not for their own use, but for sale. Still higher up are the Neuri. Northwards of the Neuri the continent, as far as it is known to us, is uninhabited. These are the nations along the course of the river Hypanis, west of the Borysthenes ''


 * What wrong with this 2500 old quote ? Nasz 15:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Herodotus, Neuroi, the Nurzec river, and Nur, Poland
According to Herodotus (approx 450 BCE) the Neuri ( Νέυροι ) were a tribe living North of the Tyres ( Dneister river ), and the furthest nation beyond the Scythian farmers along the course of the river Hypanis (Bug river). The Bug river flows into the Naura ( Baltic name for the Narew ) river. Herodotus also mentions the wild white horses nearby that grazed by a great lake, which scholars today suggest are the Podlesie marshes by the Bialowieza Forest. Yotvingian Tarpans from the Bialowieza Forest seasonally faded to near white in Winter. In 500 BCE, Eastern Europe climate was much cooler and wetter. There is still a town named Nur, Poland ( Νυρ ) { 52° 40' 0" N, 22° 18' 0" E } along the Bug River, near the Bialowieza Forest. There is also the Nurzec river not very far away, in same old West Baltic language region. Traditionally, Baltic ethnonyms are derived from hydronyms. The local hydronym may possibly have been derived from a verbal root * " niur- ", meaning "  to get murky ". The local Balts would then be called the " Niurai ". If the probable verbal root was * " nur- ", meaning " to immerse ", then the locals would be known as " Nurai ". Jaćwięgi są wśród nas.


 * Sudowite 11:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Clarification Request
Expert Attention Required
 * Herodotus - definition of the area and it's boundaries I have assumed from original entry at the end of the article which indicated.
 * In Herodotus book Ister is the river Danube and Tyras is the Dnestr, Hypanis is Southern Bug flowing into Black sea, Borysthenes is Dniepr, Hypakyris is Kalanchak, Gerras is Konskaya (a right tributary of Don), Tanais is Don.


 * This assumption may not be correct - please edit accordingly.

-- Haruth (talk) 00:47, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Modern Geography - poor attempt to make sense of the above sentence, with some additional details from the original article. Sorry to leave like this - much work needed!
 * It will be very easy to use a blak map of Europe with rivers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.27.172.125 (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

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