Talk:Never again

Buchenwald photo
The third and fourth lines of the message in the photo of a sign at Buchenwald are just barely legible, despite that part of the photo being overexposed. The text is (with original spelling and punctuation): "Form the Antinazifront!/Rembember the Millions/of victims Murdered by the Nazis/DEATH TO THE NAZI CRIMINALS". The word "death" is not entirely clear, but seems correct.

It may be desirable to include the third line in the caption, because it completes the sentence that begins "Remember the millions". I didn't make any edits, though. Roches (talk) 19:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * , I made the change here, with a cited source for the message on the sign.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:47, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Page protection
Due to the recent edits by IP users (uncited content, improper headings, etc.), I have requested temporary page protection at Requests_for_page_protection.–CaroleHenson (talk) 21:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Per this version, the page will be protected for several days.–CaroleHenson (talk) 18:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

'Nunca Mas' in Argentina is cited in a context missing the background
When mentioning the use of the term 'Nunca mas' (Never again) in Argentina, there are two significant facts missing which render the whole section too vague: 1) The term was the title of an elaborate examination report, in which the Forced Disappearance of about 8,000 people during the military dictatorship from 1976 to 1983 was proven - they had 'disappeared' from life due to secret abduction and subsequent extrajudicial killing (=murder) by semi-legal/covert government forces. This was examined in 1983 after the fall of the military dictatorship by the National Commission on the Disappearance of Persons (CONADEP). 2) Thus, the term is strongly tied to the complex of the (summed up, numbers differing in literature) about 25,000-30,000 dead 'Desaparecidos' (The Disappeared). The complex of the Argentinian 'Disappeared' or span. 'Desaparecidos' hence must also be cited in relation to the use of 'Nunca Mas' there. To not be too critical: The text now may be seen as a strong generalisation of the use of the term in Argentina - however, in this case the details are important imho. Pittigrilli (talk) 22:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Nazism vs. fascism
I reverted this comment that changed Fascism to Nazism in two places. I see that the edit summary says: "Fascism (as conceived by Giovanni Gentile and practiced in Italy under Benito Mussolini) does not include antisemitism among other exclusionary beliefs as a core tenant of it's ideology."

My concern is whether this means to say that we should get rid of Nazism - but fascism is okay.

Perhaps the link should be to a definition of fascism, perhaps the one by the Holocaust Encyclopedia.–CaroleHenson (talk) 02:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * IP is wrong because the political prisoners were against all fascism including Mussolini's variety (which less antisemitic than Nazism, but the fascist government still passed anti-jewish laws) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)


 * is the expert here so their comments rule. I think a problem, though, is also that Nazism is a kind of facism, so to frame the issue as Nazism and not mention fascism limits the scope of the problem.


 * I added the Definitions_of_fascism to fascism. There are a number of definitions, and Mussolini's is not anywhere close to an appropriate definition for the context of this article.––CaroleHenson (talk) 13:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)