Talk:New Age (The Velvet Underground song)

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disambiguating from the general term "New Age"
I removed a statetment in the article that stated this song is considered the first use of the term "New Age"  in pop culture. Without getting into what Velvet Underground meant when they used that term, it's clear they were not the first to use it in modern times. Refer to New Age for many historical references pre-dating this use. Parzival418 05:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Kim Novak?
Serious "citation needed" for the Kim Novak reference. I've been a Velvets fan for a long time, and have never heard this before. Kim Novak was hardly fat in 1969/1970. I always thought the "fat blond actress" mentioned would be Shelley Winters, especially with the following reference to Robert Mitchum (think Night of the Hunter.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leamanc (talk • contribs) 14:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Kim Novak?
I did some research and found out that it was originally Shelly Albin, Lou Reed's girlfriend at the time. Considering that Shelley Winters has the same name, was a less-than-thin blonde actress, and starred in a movie with Robert Mitchum, I believe that this justifies changing the citation to Shelley Winters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.141.161 (talk) 07:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

"sarcastic tribute to Shelley Winters"
The claim that this song is a sarcastic tribute to Shelley Winters has a citation, but the link doesn't work. I did a search and all I see are dubious sources - discussion forums, blogs, etc. No quote from Lou Reed, or anything like that. Just a lot of people who think of themselves as mind readers, and who think a song has to be about one specific person and that's it.

Picasso said, "Art is the lie that tells the truth." It doesn't matter which actress was the initial inspiration for the song, it has a broader application than that.

Also, even if the inspiration for the song was Shelley Winters, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a "sarcastic" tribute. That sounds to me like a 14-year-old boy's interpretation. ''Shelley Winters got old and fat, therefore if anyone wrote a song about her, they must have meant it as a joke, har har.

Is it so inconceivable that Reed could have empathized with a lonely, imperfect human being and written a song that tells a story about her? Doesn't the guy who wrote "Candy Says" deserve a little more credit than that? --Rosekelleher (talk) 19:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)