Talk:New Model Army (band)/Archive 1

Ethical Code?
The intro states that they are known for their 'ethical code' but never directly states what it is appart from through obscure references Mjbowell 21:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Added Image
Added image I shot of Justin Sullivan, and an infobox. -- Xinit 18:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Could some-one find an image of the new album that is not copyrighted? Due to it having been released, thought it should be added. Could someone also edit the bottom box, tried looking into it but it looked complicated. _DR.
 * ✅--JD554 (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Carnival
The linking of the Carnival wikipedia article from the name of the NMA album here seems pointless...J-Deeks 20:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Right, it should be linked to Carnival (New Model Army), like in the discography. I've fixed it. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 20:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Objectivity
This article lacks objecivity. New Model Army was criticized in the 1980s for signing with a major label. See the interview with Flux of Pink Indians in Maximumrocknroll no. 64, September 1988, at www.operationphoenixrecords.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.51.121.135 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 30 April 2007 (UTC)  (Moved here from article by David Schaich Talk/Cont 18:13, 30 April 2007 (UTC)).

The Overview section tells me that I "should" view them this way or that and reads like a convoluted apologia rather than a Wikipedia article. This section should be re-written. --SianMycock 05:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

This reads to me like a fansite, with little or no objectivity. The 'Biography' section is nothing of the sort - there is no account of how the band came to be, nor any chronology in respect of personnel, releases, popularity, critical reaction etc. I believe the entire page needs an objectivity overhaul. Furry Canary 02:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. The article would actually be more acceptable if it declared NMA God's gift to music rather than presenting condescending long-winded arguments to the same point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.208.59.56 (talk) 16:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --JD554 (talk) 20:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Main contributors
Why is Nelson not listed as one of the main contributors?

Trivia

 * Their song "Christian Militia" (1983) appeared in the BBC drama Edge of Darkness.
 * The song "Purity" appears in the French Movie Savage Nights.
 * Brazilian thrash metal band Sepultura did a cover version of "The Hunt" on their Chaos A.D. album.
 * British folk metal band Skyclad did a cover version of "Master Race" on their Oui Avant-Garde á Chance album.
 * American thrash metal band Anacrusis did a cover version of "I Love The World" on their album Manic Impressions.

Followers
This group has followers called the Rusk Hobbits 81.102.15.200 (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Joolz
I thought Justin and Joolz were an item? http://www.emusic.com/artist/New-Model-Army-MP3-Download/11573572.html lists them as "lifelong romantic partners" and http://www17seconds.blogspot.com/2008/04/joolz-denby-poet-artist-legend.html calls Joolz Justin's long-term partner" but http://threeimaginarygirls.com/liveshowreview/2008feb/justinsullivannewmodelarmyacousticshow names Joolz as Justin's wife. (OK this last one is hardly a marriage certificate)

I also found a reference to Joolz as an early manager of the band at http://www.twbooks.co.uk/crimescene/Joolzinterview.html which I never knew about78.146.124.77 (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Fans and fashion
Is it worth mentioning the fans? NMA's followers are arguably more devoted than most bands'. And what about the fans' popularisation of clog-wearing and celtic armband tattoos?Ellwd (talk) 16:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Visa issues
I just noticed the part about the band having their U.S. visas denied a couple of years ago. This is not the first such occurrence: in 1987 (possibly late '86), U.S. immigration laws (or policies?) changed such that it became more difficult for foreign musical groups to enter and tour the U.S. There was some kind of threshold of notability (to use a Wikipedia concept). My recollection is that New Model Army were initially denied visas, so at a concert in the U.K. they berated their audience. This raised the group's visibility in the press to the point that when they re-applied for the visas, they were approved. I can't remember where I read about this at the time, and I'm not sure I could find the source 23 years later. FWIW they had notable U.S. visibility at this time, as "51st State" was in regular rotation on MTV's (then-new) 120 Minutes program. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Cited references to the U.S. visa situation are now included in the main article.


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 09:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Vagabonds
No mention is made of their minor hit "Vagabonds and Children" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.122.49.85 (talk) 10:55, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * "Vagabonds" (correct title) is mentioned in the section "The major label years (1985–93)". Laura Jamieson (talk) 12:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)