Talk:New Weird America/Archive 1

Elephant 6
I don't think the article needs the extensive note on Elephant 6. There are obviously numerous movements which preceded this one, which all shared similar ethos and aesthetics, but I think they would be better off in a See also section. Cnwb 06:35, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

influences
OK from what I can tell calling this genre 'loose' is putting it in strong terms, so maybe the whole question of influences is a moot point. But would it be fair to mention folks such as Captain Beefheart, Velvet Underground, and Tom Waits as at least pointing these artists in the right direction (if only by their refusal to follow directions)? --Andymussell 02:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Tunng
I've seen people classify this group as "New Weird America", though they're more so Folktronica. Any opinions? SamWhite 22:09, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Immanent?
I don't understand the use of this word in this article. Immanent means existing inherently within the object in question.
 * word doesnt currently occur in article but possibly it meant imminent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 15:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

new weird
Does New Weird America music have to come from the US? I believe Coco Rosie are French. Dantams 21:43, 6 September 2005 (UTC) I think CocoRosie should be deleted. it is new weird *America* right?

They wish (literally). They're from the Western US, somewhere. --electric counterpoint 23:34, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, at least one of their albums was recorded in france, but they are american.

coco rosie were born in iowa and hawaii, so says the touch and go site. and though i love both vashti bunyan and frog eyes, i'm not sure if they belong on this list. with bunyan i can see how she could be "associated" with these other artists ("re-discovery" by banhart, collabs with him and animal collective, championed by every hipster under the golden sun), but she is british and hardly "new". she was not so much "influenced" by the 60's psyche and folk scenes as she was an understated part of it. and frog eyes, they are canadian and that would be a stretch i think to classify them with this group. they do a lot of things, including the primarily acoustic 'ego scriptor', but acoustic does not equal folk. thoughts? personally i think this term is totally dumb, but that's neither here nor there. Swc 00:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

CocoRosie currently live in Brooklyn, as stated in the Wikipedia article on them.

Even so, there are several bands/artists not from America: Frog Eyes, Vashti Bunyan, etc. Is being American a requisite?


 * imo yes, otherwise this article would be half finnish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 15:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Associated bands and artists
I gave this list a long-overdue pruning. If the redlinked bands and musicians are notable enough to be on the list, they should have articles, even if, at least to start, they are only stubs. These are the names I removed:

In addition, all of the musicians who remain need to have references indicating that the label is justified. In general, the entire article needs more references. --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  19:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Antony and The Johnsons
Why is Antony in a category that is specific to American musicians? He is British, and though may play with some of the other musicians in this list I don't see him as a part of this movement. Please note that Antony was in the documentary Eternal Children. He acknowledged his association with acclaimed acts like Coco Rosie and Devendra Banhart. He also resides in New York and feel that despite Antony being from another generation he has greatly influenced this movement through his support and praise of new weird america colleagues.

I hope that is enough to justify his addition to the list. am sure the person who added him was familiar with the documentary. It is available on you tube in 4 parts. Feel free to check it out. Devendra comes across as a charlatan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainwreckmurphy (talk • contribs) 07:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Deletion
I returned Deek Hoi to the list, after he was deleted with no explanation by an anonymous user. Please see my discussion on the Psych Folk page. Thanks! Martillie 17 May 2006

I'm removing Tilly and the Wall, because well, they aren't New Weird America and I've never heard them described as so. Major Organ 00:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd say that Andrew Bird should be deleted. I have never heard of him classified in this way and do not feel he fits the bill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.248.131 (talk) 03:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

sunn o)))
there is no way they belong here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.33.253 (talk • contribs) (20:50, 19 September 2008)
 * Care to offer a reason why, or shall we guess? --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  01:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * ...please be joking - 220.239.227.105 (talk) 00:06, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sunn O))) are kinda like New Weird America slowed down x 23 109.148.21.113 (talk) 22:55, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
 * and by that I meant new Sunn O))) 109.148.21.113 (talk) 23:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Neutral Milk Hotel and Sufjan Stevens?
The former is called psych rock quite often and their folkishness and surrealness of lyrics would definitely fit under this sort of scene... Sufjan Stevens to a lesser extent, but he does have many folky qualities and Age of Adz was pretty eclectic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.113.44.171 (talk) 21:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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Why sound smart?
Why do people on wikipeida use words like disparte instead of different? I never get it. Why do people try to sound smart, maybe they are but it sounds too not real. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.89.236 (talk) 10:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * As a writer I've learned to substitute repeat words with synonyms, so if I use "different" in one sentence I might swap it out for "disparate" in another. Every editor has their own style, and anyone is welcome to edit Wikipedia. The version of Wikipedia you're reading now also has a sister project called Simple English Wikipedia, which has different style guidelines. Morganfitzp (talk) 15:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC)