Talk:New Wine

New Wine speakers
David Carr is the leader of Renewal Christian Centre in Solihull. The current link takes you to the footballer, David Carr and therefore needs changing. I don't believe an article exists for the church leader.


 * Carr is not 'famous' - in fact I would argue that neither are John or Pilavachi outside of Christian circles. Someone who knows more about the festival could indicate if the list of names is appropriate? Or perhaps edit the adjective 'famous'? Steviebates 11:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I have replaced 'famous' with 'well-known', which is a little more vague - hope this will do! I have also un-linked David Carr.  If necessary 'Christian' could be added after 'well-known' to clarify further. -- EdJogg 12:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree that they are not well known outside of Christian circles, but are some of the most prolific speakers in Christian circles. The list of speakers mentioned are 'some of the best'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wattylfc (talk • contribs).


 * The problem is getting a suitably NPOV description that still means something outside of the Christian circles who will regard these speakers as 'famous'. Perhaps we could substitute 'popular Christian' for 'well-known'?  Does 'popular' count as an NPOV adjective? These speakers are all Christians, but are all New Wine speakers Christian? (sorry, must ask that last Q as I've only been to the past two years' events!) --  EdJogg 14:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * As far as I'm aware, all New Wine speakers are Christians Wattylfc 19:57, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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