Talk:New York – New Jersey Line War

Page title
The page title uses a hyphen between New York and New Jersey, but the first mention in the article uses a slash. Which form is correct? --Merovingian (t) (c) 16:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Graphic
Anyone have any idea what the stuff in the graphic is talking about? We don't have any mention of who Hendrick Decker is, why we should care about him or his brother Jan, or how they relate to the Line War. Why is this sign where it is? —Cleared as filed. 20:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Other border disputes
Why isn't there a category for other border disputes, like the Ohio/Michigan conflict and the Mass./RI dispute? NoSeptember 20:50, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Do those articles exist? Sounds like an interesting line of research. —Cleared as filed. 21:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Toledo War and Toledo Strip covers the one, but it isn't organized and easy to find if you don't know what to look for. I think it would be nice to have a list or category to make all of these disputes easy to find.   NoSeptember  21:13, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Have fun with List of U.S. military history events, although these are only post-nationhood. (See also: Erie Triangle, New Hampshire Grants, Republic of Indian Stream and Sabine Free State for a couple others, depending on your definition of border dispute. :) Also, there maybe be some benefit to separating international disputes from intranational disputes. :) jengod 22:14, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Alright, so help me, I'm starting a cat. :) jengod 00:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Y'all have fun with Category:United States boundary disputes jengod 00:20, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Changed to Category:Territorial disputes of the United States per cfd. &laquo;&raquo; Who ? &iquest; ? meta  08:35, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

There's another interesting dispute that occurred in the 1600s between Thomas Mayhew and the Duke of York (for whom the Province then State of New York was named), but I'm not aware of it having a stirring name like the "New Jersey Line War".

Mayhew purchased the islands just south of Cape Cod from the Natives in 1643, called today the Elizabeth Islands, Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket. When the Duke of York was given his huge grant in 1665, it included the lands Mayhew owned. This was a frequent cause of early US land disputes - overlapping grants, patents, and deeds. The dispute was settled in 1671, but Mayhew had to submit to juristiction by the Province of New York. The islands were finally given to Massachusetts in 1691. The WP article on the history of the County of Dukes County (that's the name of Martha's Vineyard's County .^_^.) glides quickly over this interesting historical detour, but a more thorough treatment would be fun to read. Does anyone with a history background know more about this episode? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukes_County,_Massachusetts Wordreader (talk) 01:17, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Liberty Island
I restored the reference to Liberty Island as its omission is not an improvement. As the reference (rephrased to exclude the possibility that someone thinks there is an implicit legal claim} indicates, there has been argumentation (maybe some tongue-in-cheek), yet all this is further explored in the Liberty Island article. Thus the reference is entirely appropriate and enriching. Ekem 23:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I disagree. There is no border dispute, despite what some people from New Jersey wish to believe.  It really doesn't have anything to do with the New York–New Jersey boundary dispute that is the subject of this article.  Anyone else have any input? —Cleared as filed. 05:30, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Any issues about Liberty Island are unrelated to the New York-New Jersey Line War. That sentence doesn't belong here. - Nunh-huh 05:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * Well, there have been at least two other real disputes in addition to the non-dispute about Liberty Island. Why shouldn't we have all of it for context?--Pharos 07:00, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Coordinates
As determined via Google Maps, the coordinates of the original points are 41.666667N 75.05345W (western) and 41.0N 73.8935W (eastern). However, I'm not sure that these values are absolutely correct. There appears to be some discrepency between the positions as plotted on google maps and the map data. Confluence points don't quite match up with real-world locations. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 23:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting to see where the old border was. Do you think we could draw a map illustrating the shift in the line?--Pharos 13:35, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think this one is fairly accurate. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:22, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * That's funny; I'd seen the map before at Border between West Jersey and East Jersey and never noticed the two NY-NJ lines. I suppose this belongs somewhere in the article...--Pharos 14:47, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

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