Talk:New York Community Bank

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I am the author of the Atlantic Bank of New York page. I recommend against merging it in because then it will disappear. Someone looking up a reference in a book to Atlantic Bank of New York won't be able to find it as I see no sign that anyone is interested in adding to the New York Community Bank page sections on the history of the banks it acquired. Also, if the page is free-standing, it is easier to make the links to its previous parents, Natinal Bank of Greece and Bank of Athens, obvious. There is no gain to merging the two pages, and a loss of clarity.

Acad Ronin 01:46, 7 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm... perhaps adding the history of the Atlantic Bank of New York into this page could inspire others to add information about other acquired banks. :-)  Atlantic Bank of New York could most easily be redirected here, as well.  I was the placer of the mergeto, but I don't feel too strongly on the matter... it was either going to be that or wikify plus unreferenced, and I figured the defunctness of the bank made mergeto a better long-term choice.  RTucker 01:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 07:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Fourth largest thrift?
I've added a Full Citation Needed tag to the statement that the NYCB is the fourth-largest thrift in the United States. There is a citation for www.snl.com, but the citation lacks detail on how to get to the fact on the web site, and the information appears to be behind a paywall, or at least a free trial wall. Also, NYCB itself claims to be the largest thrift in the US. They are a primary source, so they don't count here, but whatever ranking the bank maintains needs to be better sourced. I hunted around and found rankings of banks but not thrifts. --Beirne (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

First bank in Queens?
The article claims without attribution that the Queens County Savings Bank was the first bank in Queens. It was founded in 1859, but Queens was first settled in 1683. It seems like there would have been a bank sometime in the 176 years, so this fact should have a citation if true. --Beirne (talk) 01:05, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

How to structure now that the name is Flagstar
The scope of this article no longer matches its name. Earlier this month, the holding company merged its banking subsidiaries with Flagstar and, as a group, they are operating as Flagstar Bank N.A. Complicating matters, the holding company retained its old name, New York Community Bancorp, Inc. Zacks Equity Research, New York Community (NYCB) Closes Flagstar Bancorp Buyout, Dec 2 2022, Further, the press release said individual branches will continue to operate under their old names.

How do we adjust to these changes in name and structure? One would be to reduce the scope of this article to the holding company, moving the rest of the content to the Flagstar Bank article. However, it seems uncommon on Wikipedia to have an article covering just a holding company. Another would be to refocus this article on whatever branches retain the NYCB name. A third option would be to merge the two articles. Ideas?

Condensinguponitself (talk) 16:42, 10 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The parent company is still called New York Community Bank, and the subsidiaries still operate under the many different bank names (Queens County Savings Bank, etc.), so there are no changes needed that I can see. Omnibus (talk) 13:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * When I raised this question, I thought leaving the scope of the article alone was inappropriate. However, the acquisition has taken an extraordinarily long time, and the parent company estimates it will be another two years before the two banks are merged. Further, the parent company recently announced intent that the combined bank will have a name other than "Flagstar". Suggest we leave the scope of the two articles alone for the time being.
 * Meanwhile, I edited the opening paragraph to clarify the difference between the bank and the holding company. I did not mention Flagstar N.A., the layer between New York Community Bancorp and New York Community Bank, thinking that was too much for the introductory paragraph. Condensinguponitself (talk) 19:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure the change (along with the new logo which has been teased on the Flagstar website) takes effect sometime in Q1 of 2024. (See this press release from September). Already several of the branches I've seen in Michigan have new signage covered by tarps with the current Flagstar logo, while the branches and ATMs themselves are sporting new blue and gold trim. (I am a Flagstar account holder.) rawmustard (talk) 18:01, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * In December 2022, I expressed discomfort about the article being named "New York Community Bank" when the corporation was increasingly presenting itself to the public as "Flagstar". As @Rawmustard points out, the corporation continues to shift towards "Flagstar". However, the corporation has been receiving some media attention recently, and the media mostly continues to use "New York Community Bank". As the convention is to follow the practice of independent reliable sources Naming conventions (companies) I suggest leaving the article as is, at least for the time being. Condensinguponitself (talk) 15:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)