Talk:New York State Route 69

Miscellanea
Thank you for adding to what I introduced regarding upside-down signs. I remember seeing an upside-down sign in Mexico back when I was a student at SUNY Oswego; I think it's fixed 19 years later. The one sign I did see (and I drove the entire route from there to Utica) was when I was physically studying the northern terminus of NY 233, and I have a photo of that assembly. At some point, I intend to upload it (after I resize it for parameters). I drove NY 69 later in the day.

I'm just wondering if it's appropriate to reference the same thing on NY 96. I went to that route's article, and I didn't see any mention there of an upside-down sign. I don't know if 96 is really a "counterpart" of 69; I've only ever been briefly on a small part of it near Owego. For what it's worth, I've never seen (read: noticed) an upside-down NY 8 sign (I believe I've driven that entire route in segments) nor have I ever been on NY 88. My thought on it, anyway: If there's indeed a photographed upside-down sign that "looks" normal (cursory was a good choice of word), then it could be included and mentioned on that page directly, but I don't think it's necessarily "standard" to reference the same anomaly on other articles. Perhaps a separate companion article on oddities, errors, etc. could be produced for such a cross-reference, but I would rather spend my energies putting up new articles and adding to/otherwise contributing to the fine set of articles that we now have. Fwgoebel 04:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

History notes

 * Note: NY 11 (1924) redirects here, so the article should include its history as well.


 * 1924: modern 69 from Colosse to Rome became part of NY 11
 * 11 began in Oswego and ended in Utica - west of Colosse, its alignment is unclear; east of Rome, 11 used the pre-expressway routing of 49 (1924 NYT)
 * Truncated by 1926 to end at Colosse (1926 rmcn)
 * 1927: 11 renumbered to 76 due to US 11 (1926-7 Blue Books)
 * 1930: 76 broken up into 69 (west of Rome) and an extended 49 (Rome-Utica) (1930-1 Green Books)
 * modern 69 west to Mexico was unnumbered; east of Rome, it was part of 5S
 * Between 1938 and 1947: NY 69 extended west to Mexico and east into Utica, overlapping 12C and 5A from Whitesboro to Utica (1938 GB, 1947 SNYDPW map)
 * 1970: overlaps with 12C and 5A are eliminated (1970 log)
 * 12C essentially truncated to Whitesboro and Stittville, then renumbered 291
 * 69 truncated to 5A in Yorkville

-- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 19:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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