Talk:New York University Tandon School of Engineering/Archive 1

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The page was protected to prevent vandal from adding the image hello.jpg to the article. Hello.jpg was used on the website Goat.cx, showing a man doing something very nasty and un-natural. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:36, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Of course it's an ad for the college. The administration of the college is a bunch of money hungry #*$#'s who even when given one of the largest donations of any engineering school in the country, manage to go into debt. Where did the money go people? It clearly didn't go into fixing the building. 80 degree rooms with non-working thermostat....real energy efficient.


 * Does anyone else feel this page too closely resembles an ad for the college? -- Casey M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.88.55.21 (talk) 21:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * The last one was quite funny, though. ;-) SlimVirgin (talk)  03:37, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)


 * As a former student, I can tell you it's quite low. -- DarKrow


 * I am also a B.S. Computer Scinece "product" of Polytechnic University -- Grerory Kats class of 2001

The listing of Gertrude Elion as an alumna mentions only her honorary degree - which is really not enough to make someone an alum - and overlooks the fact that she spent a few years as a part-time Ph.D. candidate. (Her bachelor's and master's degrees came from Hunter College and NYU, respectively.) She never completed her doctorate because the Polytechnic insisted she become a full-timer, which she could not afford to do. I have no ties to Poly, but I think it can reasonably claim her as an alum. The article should say she was a Poly student instead of just listing the honorary degree.

The info box says Poly has 470 faculty, but the article explains that this figure includes both full-timers and adjuncts. The info boxes for other colleges and universities generally quote a figure for full-timers only. Counting both creates the illusion that Poly has an exceptionally low student:faculty ratio. I suggest listing the numbers of full-tmers and of adjuncts separately. I would do this myself but I don't know what the numbers are.

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Merger with NYU
It appears likely that Polytechnic University is merging with New York University, according to a recent e-mail from NYU President John Sexton.
 * Yes, my roommate works at NYU and told me about it. I was surprised that neither article mentioned the merger.  I added (with refs.) to both. --Nricardo 02:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
 * They are merging. I've added references from both school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikinerd01 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Move?
The current title, "Polytechnic University of New York" might lead one to believe that "of New York" is part of the university's name. Should we move to Polytechnic University (New York)? --Nricardo 02:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC) New York is not part of the name. I will just remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.57.194 (talk) 19:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Agree. I don't even think (New York) is needed because the name of the school is Polytechnic University, and I think there is only one Polytechnic University. Adding "of New York" or "(New York)" can be misleading.Wikinerd01 00:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The indication of New York is necessary to differentiate it from a school with the same name in Hong Kong (see Polytechnic University page). I did the move.--Mblumber (talk) 02:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Merge?? Move?? Etc??
At this time (Fall 2009), Polytechnic is officially ONLY AN AFFILIATE of New York University, and uses that official designation on it's webpages. It is an interim entity, and is in a process of trying to align itself to become a school of NYU, although all the public relations and branding effort is directed toward creating the impression that is fait accompli. (PolyOldGuard)

PolyOldGuard, you've attempted several times to edit the article with your, it's ONLY AN AFFILIATE edit, only to have it later undone by other editors. I don't think these other editors (at least I don't) disagree with you that NYU-Poly is, at this 'stage', only an affiliate. For example, while everyone has undone your "AFFILIATE" edit from the MAIN PARAGRAPH, the HISTORY and NYU AFFILIATION sections (which address the affiliation) has not been undone (indeed, they have even been expanded). I think it's because the affiliation has already been well covered throughout the article and no one has made attempts to hide this fact (at least in the current article). However, when you attempt to inject your edits in the main paragraph with an 'overly' cautionary tone, it seems a little disingenuous. --91.47.42.54 (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Since Polytechnic is know officially part of New York University, i think the article should be edited and rendered and somehow linked etc with New York University pages on wiki.

- NYU Student/Employee (singhn@nyu.edu) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.68.36.168 (talk) 21:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Seconded. It should, there is no longer any reason for its separateness. (Former NYU student) --24.193.80.232 (talk) 23:53, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Nope. Each of the individual schools (law, med, arts & science, business, performing arts, etc.) has its own article.  Poly should be no different. --Nricardo (talk) 16:49, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Nricardo, I think there is a misunderstanding, we are not talking about merging the articles (at least I don't think we are). The NYU:Poly wiki page has since been linked with the NYU pages on wiki. Further discussion on this is now moot as this page is now part of the NYU pages on wiki. --24.193.80.232 (talk) 05:36, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

ACS certified chemistry program
I am a current chemistry student, and the line about the undergraduate chemistry program being certified by the ACS is dubious. Students have the option to pursue an ACS certified degree (many institutions have this option), but not all chemistry degrees are ACS certified. Extra, upper-level undergraduate chemistry classes are necessary for this designation. I am the only member of the senior class eligible for this degree, and 1 of 2 in the last 6(ish) years. The PR department needs to do a little research before they gloat their fallacies. I'm not familiar with editing articles, so can someone please change this? -R —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.113.129 (talk) 05:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You should add this information to the best of your abilities as few people are as well informed about it as you are! It would be best if you could add some sort of reference to support these claims, but just try to add the information in a clear and NPOV-consistent sort of way and see what happens. Aaronshaw (talk) 22:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Advertisement-like language
Consistent with some of the comments above, I have marked this article as sounding like an advertisement. Examples abound in almost every section - beginning in the first paragraph with the somewhat un-supportable claim that NYU-Poly "is the New York metropolitan area’s preeminent resource in science, engineering and technology education and research." This is clearly marketing jargon and the article should be edited to remove as much of it as possible. I hope this will inspire people to pitch in and start making changes wherever they see fit! Aaronshaw (talk) 22:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The above post was over a year ago. The following is a user enquiry copied over from WP:EAR:

Copied from a user enquiry at  WP:EAR. Hello,

''Based on the traffic observed in the article's history and the rate at which useless, advertisement sounding information has compounded since I first saw this article in 2005, it is clear that it is now somebody's job to develop an internet presence for this university. Obviously, Wikipedia is not the appropriate forum for such a thing, and as my alma mater, I am sickened to see that such a high-quality school has to resort to the skill set of a used car salesman. Could someone lock this article, thereby preventing this PR person from making this any worse? Other reputable institutions do not have articles that read in such a way, and the notion of using Wikipedia to advertise is fundamentally offensive. The images that have nothing to do with the university (the stealth bomber, etc.) should also be taken down.''

''Best Regards, J.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.2.61 (talk) 00:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC) ''

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I've removed some of the irrelevant images and an entire section of promotional blather, and protected the page from IP editing and new users. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

If someone has a moment, all the redlinked alumni  need removing  too. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I removed a few dozen, someone please do the rest.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello,
 * I agree that the article was disgustingly promotional but I completely disagree with other reputable institutions do not have articles that read in such a way. Check the Wiki pages of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and Harvey Mudd College(check it's Relations with Caltech section). I am an engineering graduate of NYU-Poly and I know that there have been vandalism in NYU-POly page before. Someone tried to promote Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and demote NYU-POly in NYU-Poly' Wiki page. This may 've prompted Poly people( or people from rival colleges) to mess up NYU-Poly Wiki page.
 * Thanks


 * REAL POLY ALUMNUS
 * There are, and always will be, some articles that escape our attention. We can only  rely  on  our vigilance. All help to address the current issues with this article would be greatly  appreciated. However, in  order to  prevent  more spammy additions, for the moment unregistered and new users are not  able to  edit  it. They may of course post their proposals for new text here on this talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

A lot of the puff is back, for example, words like "distinguished", etc. This is a battle that won't be won unless the article is locked from changes completely - mangoeater has posted small, ad-like changes in the past on this page.

To suggest that I am not a real alumnus and that I'm part of some inter-college conspiracy theory to badmouth Poly is both unfounded and inflammatory. I attended Poly just as the NYU acquisition was occurring, and I now live out-of-state. For employers that haven't heard of Poly, they may refer to the Wikipedia page for basic information. From what I've read here, if I were considering a Poly graduate for a position, I might throw his resume in the garbage; schools of the caliber of MIT and CalTech do not need to be hard-sold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.2.61 (talk) 04:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I think the "fruiteater" accounts should be totally banned from Wiki.... '''If I were considering a Poly graduate for a position, I wouldn't throw his resume in the garbage after reading Poly's Wiki page, a page that is open to the public for editing. I would go to the school's official website to learn about it..... This is called POLYTHINKING!'''

Promotion of MIT and CalTech should not also be allowed in Poly's talk page.... '''Poly is definitely of the caliber of MIT and CalTech. The deputy chair of engineering at CalTech is a Poly alumnus!''' I don't know anyting about the inter-college conspiracy, but I do know that NYU-Poly has more than double(1807) the number of engineering graduate students of RPI, which has 818 engineering graduate students and both schools have exactly the same average GRE score... This is a fact that can be seen on the USNEWS ranking website.

Rattling off harrowingly specific statistics about Poly vs. competitor further proves how endemic this "use Wikipedia to advertise" mindset is in the culture of the Poly PR department. Wikipedia is supposed to be written in a neutral way, unlike a website that a school maintains themselves. Wikipedia SHOULD be a more impartial source for an employer who knows nothing about a school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.2.61 (talk) 20:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I edited the NYU-Poly page yesterday and I see that you reverted it back. I read the talk page and I see people complaining about advertisement like language. I put the word "distinguished" because it existed in the page for many years before someone messed up the page. Besides Poly does have distinguished history in polymer chemistry(In 1946, Herman Mark established the Polymer Research Institute at Brooklyn Polytechnic, the first research facility in the United States dedicated to polymer research. Mark is also recognized as a pioneer in establishing curriculum and pedagogy for the field of polymer science.[6] In 1950, the POLY division of the American Chemical Society was formed, and has since grown to the second-largest division in this association with nearly 8,000 members. The American Chemical Society designated the Polymer Research Institute as a National Historic Chemical Landmark on September 3, 2003). In electrical engineering, Rober G. Brown (class of 1868) designed and developed the first telephone system in Paris, France. Among his other innovations were the "French Telephone," with its separate hand piece (carrying the speaker and microphone) which rested in a cradle, and the hiring of women to work as telephone operators. Weber Research Institute was internationally regarded as one of the foremost centers of research on microwave field theory in the world. According to a 1968 inquiry by the journal MicroWaves, microwave engineers named by a wide margin the Polytechnic Institute as the school from which they had received their training. Poly had been the site for earlier work in 1840 by Samuel F. B. Morse and Alfred Vail on a recording telegraph. Gordon Gould invented laser, Mark Cuadillo invented RFID, Dibner inventor first solderless electrical connector etc. Many IEEE presidents including the current president elect is a Poly alumnus. Poly produced two Nasa astronauts- Charles Camarda(NASA scientist and mission specialist on the Return to Flight voyage of the shuttle Discovery) and Paolo A. Nespoli(Italian astronaut, mission specialist at STS-120 Space Shuttle mission.) and one Chief Engineer of NASA Johnson Space Center-Jay Greene.

Stevens Institute of Technology- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevens_Institute_of_Technology under their research section put Stevens partnered with Parsons The New School for Design and Milano School of International Affairs, Management and Urban Policy to design an affordable green home as part of the 2011 Solar Decathlon.[47] The team partnered with Habitat for Humanity of Washington, DC to provide the home to a low-income family in the Deanwood section of Washington at the conclusion of the competition.[47]

The U.S. Department of Energy selected Stevens as one of 20 teams to compete in the 2013 Solar Decathlon to be held at Orange County Great Park in Irvine, California, the first time the competition has been held outside of Washington, D.C.[48]

that is why I included Sae aero competition and shell eco competition in NYU-Poly's page

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute included in their alumni section all companies founded by their alumni http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute#Notable_alumni

In addition to NVIDIA, RPI graduates have also gone on to found or co-found major companies such as John Wiley and Sons, Texas Instruments, Fairchild Semiconductor, PSINet, MapInfo, Adelphia Communications, Level 3 Communications, Garmin, and Bugle Boy. Several RPI graduates have played a part in the U.S. space program: George Low (B.Eng. 1948, M.S. 1950) was manager of the Apollo 11 project and served as president of RPI, and astronauts John L. Swigert Jr., Richard Mastracchio, Gregory R. Wiseman, and space tourist Dennis Tito are alumni.

ALSO INVENTIONS Many RPI graduates have made important inventions, including Allen B. DuMont ('24),[130] creator of the first commercial television; Keith D. Millis ('38),[131] inventor of ductile iron; Ted Hoff ('58),[132] father of the microprocessor; Raymond Tomlinson ('63),[133] often credited with the invention of e-mail; inventor of the digital camera Steven Sasson[134] and Curtis Priem ('82), designer of the first video graphics processor and co-founder of NVIDIA.

That is why I put up the names of all the major companies founded by Poly alumni

Thanks mangoeater1000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangoeater1000 (talk • contribs) 02:18, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand. What does any of this have to do with being impartial on Wikipedia? You rattle off facts from three different accounts/IP addresses, yet you fail to address why you think this is the appropriate forum for this. Don't all universities have self-hosted websites? Are they not self-aggrandizing enough? Isn't any graduate of any university deemed notable in his field "distinguished"?

Jim Lewis is an expert on how to behave on the internet - why don't you stop in his office for a few pointers? 24.177.2.61 (talk) 02:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

You wouldn't understand so instead of wasting time in Wiki, do something constructive. Of Poly's 44000 alumni, you are the only one posting on Wiki day and night. Unless you are getting paid by a rival university, you have nothing to gain from it. I know for sure that you are not getting paid by Poly. Everyone can look up Poly's professors and the classes they teach. Wiki has administrators and they will decide what to do. If you are really an alumnus, do something constructive and make Poly proud! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangoeater1000 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

This began as a request for a NPOV article, and now you're resorting to ad hominem attacks about my work ethic. This started because I AGREE THAT POLY IS OF THE CALIBER OF MIT AND CALTECH, AND THEREFORE SHOULD NOT BE HARD-SOLD. You don't know where the marketing ends and the truthfulness begins. In terms of my "day and night Wiki use", I am currently a graduate student in Connecticut, and I'm incredibly thankful that my stipend has not been enough to donate money to Poly. I had a Dean's scholarship from 2006-2010 (that's $72,000, in case it's changed), and felt a strong need to give back, once I finished my Ph.D. Now that I see how Poly spends it's money and conducts itself, I will not be giving back a red cent. When I'm done with graduate school, it is very likely that employers outside of the Tri-State haven't heard of Poly, and so I, LIKE ALL POLY ALUMNS, HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS PAGE. I will be watching when the edit protection expires, and I assure you I will make noise if the article reverts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.177.2.61 (talk) 18:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

polydoes have distinguished history in polymerscience(polymerscience in the USA started at NYU-Poly!)...Wiki and self-hosted websites are not reliable, only Wiki's reliable references matter......make some noise, read some pages(such as rpi and stevens), do some editing and after the page is exactly the way you want, give back money money money!

THERE IS NO SCHOLARSHIP CALLED Dean's scholarship AT POLY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.110.53 (talk) 17:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

There was from 2006-2010; your attempts to destroy my credibility are feeble at best. 24.177.2.61 (talk) 21:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Reprotected
Please do not  add non notable or unreferenced names to  to  this list. They will be removed. Policies/guidelines: WP:BLP, WP:ACADEMIC, WP:LISTPEOPLE. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:50, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rensselaer_Polytechnic_Institute_people#Current This list also has many non notable or unreferenced names  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.110.55 (talk) 14:18, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

New article name doesn't make sense
The name "New York University Polytechnic Institute" is not a good one. What was wrong with "Polytechnic Institute of New York University"? That's still what the school is called in the first sentence. I just don't understand the move. --Mblumber (talk) 01:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC).
 * The name was recently changed following further progress in the integration of Poly and NYU. This is from the text of an email sent out recently by NYU Board of Trustees Chairman Martin Lipton.
 * "Given this progress and interaction, the time has come to set into motion the final steps of the transformation of NYU-Poly into NYU’s Polytechnic School of Engineering. We intend to move forward promptly to seek the approvals and endorsements that are required to achieve this transition, including consulting with the Faculty Senators Council and the Senate Academic Affairs Committee at NYU, the Faculty Executive Committee at Poly, and other members of the universities’ communities; conducting due diligence; and seeking applicable regulatory approvals. This process is expected to be completed sometime before the start of the 2014-15 academic year."

Rollback edits of sockpuppet (Mangoeater1000 / Mambo420 / 128.238.110.*)
Reverted edits by Mangoeater1000 to last version by Jimbo113453. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:21, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Mangoeater1000 / 128.238.110.* has also applied similar unconstructive edits to the NYU article. Please keep an eye on this user. Further discussion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_York_University#Mangoeater1000_.2F_Mambo420_.2F_128.238.110..2A
 * Also includes Mambo420. Too many typographical errors from said edits btw. Any takers? --Schiez (talk) 04:48, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Also includes User:Rankingupdater, 128.238.110.54, 128.238.141.20, 128.238.141.19, 128.238.110.51, 128.238.110.50, 128.238.241.7, who have been making superfluous and hyperbolic claims pro-NYU Poly on the article Institute of Technology (United States) (article's history). Magoeater1000 has already been blocked for sock-puppetry, and a further sockpuppet investigation is needed.-- Marco Guzman, Jr Talk  17:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I have already filed another sock-puppetry investigation against this user here: Sockpuppet_investigations/Mangoeater1000.-- Marco Guzman, Jr Talk  18:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Edits by sockpuppet
Just so I do not have problems with edit warring, I am coming to the talk page. A sockpuppet of Mangoeater1000 has been adding unsourced alumni content and a large WP:COPYVIO from here. He is also removing weasel word and peacock tags, even thought those issues still are there. It would be helpful for other editors to watch this page. Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 00:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

rephrase it if you want, but please do not remove sourced information

--Polyalum1 (talk) 00:22, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We are aware that new accounts have appeared on  the article since others have been blocked or the article protected. It  may  be necessary  to  apply  full  protection  to  this article. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Full protection of the article would be unfortunate because it needs so much clean up, and that is not easily done via edit requests on the talk page. But keeping the sockpuppets out is also important, so full protection for a period of time is understandable.  Use your best judgment. 72Dino (talk) 13:44, 19 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Polyalum1 has been confirmed as a sock. This will provide time fora clean up, and if any new accounts appear on  the article, especially with  the old trick  of making  any  10 edits to  become confirmed, then full-protection  may  be the only  solution. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:26, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it looks like you'll have to lock it down with this latest sockpuppet. Maybe you can also take a look at the reopened SPI on Mangoeater1000, too.  Thanks, 72Dino (talk) 20:01, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * 72Dino (talk) and his suspected sockpuppets keep deleting a section of this talk page. Please take a look at the this talk page' history. And yes, full-protection seems like a good idea because then people will be able to edit after edit request granted and this will end vandalism.  I think this is not the only page that requires full-protection.  Please take a look at the edit history of these users:



They are making similar nonconstructive edits to Polytechnic Institute of New York University and other technical colleges-related articles. They all seem to be affiliated with California Polytechnic State University. Most probably all these three accounts belong to one person.

Thanks --Magini (talk) 20:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

The mentioned users keep trying to delete my message(see this talk page' history), proving that they are indeed sock puppets--Magini (talk) 21:52, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Also, points to be noted include, keeps: 1. Deleting cited information from NYU-Poly such as alumni 2. Updated information from NYU-Poly page such as rankings

--Magini (talk) 22:06, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is a shame that we are forced to remove all of the information you have added even though some of it may be true and useful. But we know that we can't trust you and your edits so we'll have to check everything ourselves.  I know for a fact that there is a problem with some of your edits because you've tried to add things to the infobox that simply don't exist in the template.
 * You're going to be blocked in a bit once a checkuser looks into things and we'll then revert all of your edits. It would be swell if you could just save us all some time and stop editing the article.  Thanks!  ElKevbo (talk) 22:50, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Magini (talk) (my sock puppet) did not put anything in the infobox that simply don't exist in the template. Check the article' history What ElKevbo (talk) is referring to is the fact that Magini (talk) (my sock puppet) tried to include NYU' endowment as parent endowment. This is legal because Yale's law school has both endowment and parent endowment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yale_Law_School. I was wrong, none of you are socks..... and I started liking the edits of

I don't trust you also. Readers and editors can click the link and check. I never put any wrong source — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimbo420 (talk • contribs) 17:50, October 22, 2012‎
 * It's not a question of right or wrong. The law school article uses a different infobox for which that is a valid parameter; for the infobox in this article, it is not a valid parameter.  If you'd like to lobby that the university infobox be changed to include the parameter then please be my guest but until it's changed the parameter doesn't exist. ElKevbo (talk) 23:20, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Forgive me. I am a novice. I just try to provide info. Because I am an alumnus of the school, sometimes my language becomes promotional. But I never provide false source. I will only make a new account after reading all wiki rules. Please forgive me if I said anything wrong to you. I will be out of wiki for a long time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bimbo420 (talk • contribs) 23:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

October 2012
Please change the link from AT&T to AT&T for disambiguation, per Talk:AT&T. 12.153.112.21 (talk) 15:24, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 11:57, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Removal of weasel and peacock words
Please help clean up the article. READ THIS BEFORE EDITING Manual of Style/Words to watch-- '''  Paniraja  Upgraded!  Tag me! ''' 05:13, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Retained info - the lead is supposed to 'summarize' the main points of the article-- '''  Paniraja  Upgraded!  Tag me! ''' 05:22, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Troll Problem
Trolls keep deleting massive amounts of sourced informations from the article. These informations belong in university articles according to WIKI rules — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.110.59 (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

merge or split with List of NYU Polytechnic Institute people
Either this should be split from the main university page, or the small number of additional people merged into the relevant sections. In either case, it needs editing. The table format is inappropriate as excessive mechanics, and so is the paragraph format--which is unreadable for this sort of content) ; we do this sort of material as lists. . I think there are enough for a separate article, and unless there are objections, I'm going to go that way. What is needed also is removal of a few who are not obviously notable, and shortening any description of more than a few words, and providing one or two word descriptions for the ones without it.  DGG ( talk ) 20:52, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Also to be considered is who should be included on the list. Generally on these embedded lists, particularly with universities and cities, WP:WTAF is followed.  Most of the individuals are not notable in and of themselves, but work for notable companies.  Should all these names be listed?  FYI, I removed all the names without articles from one paragraph here but was reverted here. 72Dino (talk) 05:36, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Tripodics did not notice that they consisted of mere repetitions or restatements. But wait, don't do anything yet! Reversion of your edits was justified. I would do the same. Many informations have already been lost due to disruptive editings. I am making a list of all the lost informations. DGG will soon start working on this article. Until then, don't delete any information. The main article will list only the most famous ones. List of NYU Polytechnic Institute people will list all the notable ones.--Pablo.morales.la.bomba (talk) 06:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)


 * The people listed who are not notable (but work for notable companies) should not be on EITHER list. By the way, the information is not "lost".  It is clearly found in the article history. 72Dino (talk) 14:37, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Polytechnic Institute of New York University
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To Whom It May Concern
Poly logo seal has been deleted from Commons. I made an undeletion request.--Pablo.morales.la.bomba (talk) 04:25, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Issue settled--Pablo.morales.la.bomba (talk) 23:46, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 19 December 2012
NYU Polytechnic School of Engineering

Dleung92 (talk) 00:56, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:48, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

January 2013
Could an Administrator update the Jerome Lemelson wikilink in the Notable alumni section to point to Jerome H. Lemelson to redirect properly? --Super Goku V (talk) 07:05, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: per WP:NOTBROKEN. -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
Admins responding to edit requests: Please note that block evading sockpuppet accounts are being created to make edit requests here. Such requests can be removed unanswered.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request 7 February 2013
In the Notable Alumni section, could you please change Metropolitan Transportation Authority to Metropolitan Transportation Authority ? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 01:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 10:37, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Great - thank you! GoingBatty (talk) 17:46, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Minor fix needed
The article currently contains an unclosed gallery tag. The closing tag got accidentally chomped to. The reflist and everything after isn't rendering properly because of this. — daranz [ t ] 08:55, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Yngvadottir (talk) 13:00, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Minor fix requested
The "New York University affiliation" section makes no sense as it is presently written. They re-merged in 1973, and then merged in 2008 after 35 years of separation?! It makes it sound like they merged for ten minutes in 1973 and then immediately separated. From what I can gather, in 73 Poly aquired NYU's school of engineering, and then in 2008 it began the process of merging with NYU.Sylvain1972 (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit requested on 6/9/2013
Someone please revert this edit as it reinstated offending peacock-terms along with the templates while removing the updated and trimmed article. Even after doing so, further trimming might be needed to be in line with the requirements set by Wikipedia standards and rules. It would be totally unfair to leave the article in poor condition and locked down for a year. Thanks--Eaveglue codedkooks (talk) 21:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It's a well-known fact that The Wrong Version is always protected. -- Red rose64 (talk) 00:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

6/29
In the "Admissions and enrollment" section, it says that 2.5 minimum college GPA (on a 4.0 scale) is required for tranfer admissions. The source provided is CollegeBoard.org. I just checked the source and saw that actually 3.0 minimum college GPA (on a 4.0 scale) is required for tranfer admissions. This is the link: https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/college-university-search/polytechnic-institute-of-new-york-university

Thanks,--NYUSTDT (talk) 04:18, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks for letting us know. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 12:01, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Please unlink or red-link Omega Phi Alpha
Please unlink or red-link Omega Phi Alpha on this page, since the current link of Omega Phi Alpha is incorrect. The Omega Phi Alpha at Poly-NYU is a local Fraternity, not a chapter of Omega Phi Alpha National Service Sorority. Please see Omega Phi Alpha for the current list. I personally think unlinking it would be preferred to Omega Phi Alpha since I don't believe that it is notable enough to ever have its own page.Naraht (talk) 22:46, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 05:11, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Please link John Howard Raymond (at list of presidents)
Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:40, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:50, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

average SAT score
Hi, please update the average SAT score to 1370 per http://www.petersons.com/college-search/polytechnic-institute-of-nyu-000_10000567.aspx, in the "Admissions and enrollment" sections. Thanks--167.206.128.5 (talk) 17:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not seeing the figure 1370 on the page linked. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:51, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

http://www.petersons.com/college-search/polytechnic-institute-of-nyu-000_10000567.aspx

SAT Math 720 SAT Reading 650

Adding up gives 1370 (720+650).

SAT writing is 650

--167.206.128.5 (talk) 22:59, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, done &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:58, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Please update the "Consolidation into New York University" section
Hello, I notice that while the article uses an older source that says the colleges will merge sometime before the next school year starts, on the official website it states NYU Poly will officially merge with NYU on Jan. 1, 2014. Cheers! ShadowGuy (talk) 17:38, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Hi ShadowGuy. Can you be more specific? It would help to know the exact words you want added to the article, the exact place to put them, and the exact text that you would like to be replaced, if any. Please reactivate the edit request when you reply. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:25, 11 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi Mr. Stradivarius, to be more specific: I would like the current language of "This process is expected to be completed sometime before the start of the 2014-15 academic year after which the school will be known as NYU's Polytechnic School of Engineering," to be changed to something like "This process is expected to be completed on January 1, 2014, after which the school will be known as NYU's Polytechnic School of Engineering, (link to http://www.poly.edu/about/merger)".
 * Make sense? I'll leave the exact wording to your judgement. Thank you! -- ShadowGuy (talk) 18:03, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. Thanks for the clarification. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 00:57, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Brooklyn Polytechnic Preparatory School?
A biography of geographer W. L. G. Joerg says that he attended the Brooklyn Polytechnic Preparatory School. It seems unlikely to me that these would be unrelated to this school.  - WPGA2345 -    ☛   21:51, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Name Change
Effective December 31, 2013, is now "NYU School of Engineering" or "NYU Polytechnic School of Engineering". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.126.200.127 (talk) 11:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 1 January 2014
The school's title should be renamed New York University Polytechnic School of Engineering.

Jgunaratne (talk) 06:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:39, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Update site
Time to remove protection? Anyway, looks like the site is now http://engineering.nyu.edu. Thank you. —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 14:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, and I've reduced the protection to semi-protection. I'll keep an eye on the page to see if any more sockpuppets turn up, and if we start having significant problems I'll restore the full protection. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 20:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Athletics
Now that NYU Poly is a school of NYU, editors have been removing info about athletics. However, the NYU Poly athletics web site is still active and has games scheduled after the 1/1/2014 change. Does anyone have any citations that the NYU Poly program is going away immediately, eventually, or at all? Bahooka (talk) 05:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)


 * It's going away very soon.--Pyrexnods (talk) 08:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2013/10/nyu-ploytecnic-combine-teams


 * Then it looks like the athletics content should stay on the article until the end of the season, and add a sentence about the merging of the programs with that citation. Bahooka (talk) 14:50, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Westchester Campus: Does someone recall it?
In times when I was a student there, there was also graduate-only campus at Westchester country in upstate New York. Honestly, don't know what's happened in it, but its not mentioned in an article
 * About Long Island Campus (aka Farmingdale Campus) I surely can claim that it was both undergraduate and graduate campus. Later on, when Polytechnic U. abandoned that campus, next to Republic Airport - campus was relocated somewhere in LI, in graduate-only edition. GK tramrunner (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Updated External Link and PRI founding year
I have updated the dead external link to the ACS National Historic Chemical Landmarks program and corrected the year that the Polymer Research Institute was formed. I am the program coordinator of the ACS-NHCL program.KLindblom (talk) 22:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Remove Long Island Campus
Both Long Island Campus and Weschester campus closed as of December 2013.

http://www.regents.nysed.gov/meetings/2013Meetings/June2013/613brca3.pdf --Ruler of Wiki (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Alumni Section
NYU-Poly alumni headed notable companies as chairman, president or CEO, including Yahoo! (Alfred Amoroso), Lockheed Martin (Robert J. Stevens), Xerox (Ursula Burns), AECOM (John Dionisio), Ingersoll Rand (Herbet L. Henkel), EDO Corporation (James M. Smith), El Al (Israel "Izzy" Borovich), TPV Technology (Jason Hsuan), Sears (Arthur C. Martinez), Stanley Black & Decker (John M. Trani), Reinsurance Group of America (Stewart G. Nagler), Pfizer (John Elmer McKeen), General Motors (Alfred Pritchard Sloan Jr), Parsons Brinckerhoff (Robert Prieto), 20th Century Fox (Marvin Davis) and BAE Systems (Mark Ronald). Some NYU-Poly alumni founded notable companies, including IBM (Charles Ranlett Flint), Jacobs Engineering Group (Joseph J. Jacobs), Fairchild Semiconductor (Eugene Kleiner), H&Q Asia Pacific (Ta-lin Hsu), Tellabs (Michael Birck), Matrix Partners (Paul Ferri), Burndy (Bern Dibner), Grumman Corporation (William T. Schwendler), Liberty Media (John C. Malone), Red Apple Group (John Catsimatidis) and Sasken Communication Technologies (Rajiv C Mody).--Ruler of Wiki (talk) 00:27, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Just a note to anyone reading this or any other edit request or discussion opened by a relatively new editor: This article has a long history of association with a very problematic banned editor with a penchant for using new(ish) accounts to promote this subject. Of course not every new editor is a sockpuppet but this editor's history demands that we be cautious. ElKevbo (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC)


 * @ElKevbo, Almost all colleges list their notable alumni. Each of the ones above are verified. However, if it does not comply with Wikipedia policies to list notable alumni, then don't add them. I recently started working for this school. Thanks.--Ruler of Wiki (talk) 00:44, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2014
Please update "Ranked 57 in U.S. News 2013 graduate engineering programs." in the Ranking section to "Ranked 46 in U.S. News & World Report 2015 Best Graduate Engineering Schools." Correspondingly, the reference [11] should be updated from "Retrieved 2013-03-14" to "Retrieved 2014-04-21". The source of information has not changed.

Vampirecao (talk) 19:15, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done 123chess456 (talk) 02:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2015
Please change the heading of this page from New York University Polytechnic School of Engineering to New York University Tandon School of Engineering as the school has been renamed after a $100 million donation from the Tandon family (http://www.wsj.com/articles/nyu-polytechnic-gets-100-million-donation-1444017601).

Connormaxlin (talk) 04:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: There is nothing any regular editor can do as the page has been move protected so only admins can rename it. I have left a message on the protecting admin's talk page.  In the meantime, the name will have to stay the way it is. --Stabila711 (talk) 04:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Fully protected edit request
So I think this is the template that is needed. The request is to move the page to the above name, per reliable sources. See also http://engineering.nyu.edu/ – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:25, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done This template doesn't actually work, as the protection level is auto-detected as semi-protection. (I only found out about the request from a message on my talk page.) It's a bit strange in this case, but you could create the target page with db-move. Or you could always use admin help or leave a note on WP:AN. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 05:48, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Tandon Name Change
While the name change has been announced, it hasn't happened *yet*. The name change isn't sourced, but can be cited to this press release

I would think it would be best to leave the name mostly as it was, at least until there's more details about the planned name change. I have the feeling that this could cause an edit war though, so I'm posting here first UniversityofPi (talk) 18:55, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The official school website now reflects the updated name, Tandon School of Engineering: http://engineering.nyu.edu/. 0:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgunaratne (talk • contribs)

Sort of, yes. Almost all the signs still say NYU Poly SoE though (there's a couple, like the plaque about the Polymer Research Institute in the Jacobs Academics Building that still say Polytechnic University, and a few minor signs that still say Polytechnic Institute of NYU) but no sign on campus says Tandon yet. In addition there's been more talk about it, because there's been a huge uproar over the complete removal of the name Poly. I'm pretty sure, changing your name on your website doesn't legally constitute a name change. I'm not clear on the details after the 2014 merger, but I was of the understanding the school of engineering was some sort of legal entity (like a subsidiary of NYU kind of thing). The press release says the school is *going* to be renamed, and the name change will occur on Monday according to WSJ.UniversityofPi (talk) 23:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Polytechnic
It appears to me that the name of the school is indeed "NYU Tandon School of Engineering" (see http://engineering.nyu.edu/about). The quick facts sheet also refers to it as this (http://engineering.nyu.edu/files/Quick_Facts_December%202015.pdf). Since the name change on October 5, 2015, ([http://engineering.nyu.edu/press-release/2015/10/05/100-million-gift-nyu-school-engineering-chandrika-ranjan-tandon press release here) all press releases refer to it without "poly".

It is unclear to me why the logo has the phrase "polytechnic institute" below it, but that could be a motto or slogan (compare to uakron.edu's logo). The mission statements are a bit out of date and do not reflect the name change from what I can tell. However, I think given the about page and the quick facts, it's a good bet that they do not refer to themselves as "polytechnic institute" anymore (per WP:SPS and WP:ABOUTSELF).  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 00:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks,--FRDHU (talk) 00:58, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * That is unusual... but I think the about page would be a better source for the official name for the school (especially because that came from the Polytechnic Institute Alumni Association and not the school itself). Perhaps their PR person should be contacted.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 01:02, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Kathleen Hamilton, a Director of PR at the school confirmed the official name as NYU Tandon School of Engineering. The Polytechnic Institute Alumni Association has been vocal about not liking the name change, but the Wikipedia page should reflect the school's official name rather than what people may want it to be. Jgunaratne (talk) 04:15, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2016
NYU Tandon Online has recently changed the number of master degrees and certificates of completion on offer. Please update accordingly: Instead of "NYU Tandon Online is the online learning unit at NYU Tandon School of Engineering which offers 8 master’s degrees, 2 graduate certificates, and 6 certificates of completion programs fully online," please update to "6 master's degrees, 2 graduate certificates and 5 certificates of completion..."

Lm171 (talk) 15:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 06:14, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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Department of Mathematics
The Tandon Department of Mathematics no longer exists. All administrative and academic activities have been taken over by the Department of Mathematics in the Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, which is also the Department of Mathematics for the Faculty of Arts and Sciences. It now oversees all activities in mathematics at Tandon, including the BS and MS degree programs and all math courses. All courses are now taught by Courant faculty.

Dyang10025 (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

NYU School Of Engineering's Merger With Polytechnic Institute Of Brooklyn In 1973.
This article fails to mention that, in addition to New York University’s finance difficulties in the late 1960s and early 1970s, the major impetus for The State Of New York's brokered merger of New York University's School Of Engineering and Polytechnic Institute Of Brooklyn into Polytechnic Institute Of New York, in 1973, was that New York University's School Of Engineering lost all its accreditations.

100.2.24.15 (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Department of Mathematics
As of September 1, 2017, the Tandon Department of Mathematics no longer exists, and the Courant Department of Mathematics has taken over all teaching of Tandon math courses.

Could the Tandon page be updated to note this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dyang10025 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Dyang10025 (talk) 14:33, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Dyang10025 (talk) 13:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2020
I would like to add Hans Reissner to the list of inventors. Dyang10025 (talk) 01:56, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Hans Reissner, designed the first successful all-metal aircraft, the Reissner Canard (or Ente) with both skin and structure made of metal. Also, first solved Einstein's equation for the metric of a charged point mass. His closed-form solution, rediscovered by several other physicists within the next few years, is now called the Reissner–Nordström metric.

What else? 3rd bullet from the bottom in the list. 's talk page! 04:49, 23 May 2020 (UTC)