Talk:Newegg/Archives/2012

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I just found out about Neweggmall.com Does that site deserve a mention in the article? http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2286275,00.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.129.157 (talk) 01:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Is this the same company that uses newegg.com? I can't find any reference to Kansas City on their website. --David Iberri | Talk 17:36, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

i think they bumped up their shipping charges.

This article says that Newegg was founded in 2000 and is based in La Puente.. But according to their website, they were founded in 2001 and are based in City of Industry... I'm confused. (Yes, I could change the article, I suppose, but I'm too shy to actually change something. :P ) --Peng 01:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
 * well, City of Industry and La Puente are often confused. Somehow the cities borders are scattered and incoherrent so it depends on who you're asking, but they're based officially out of La Puente.
 * Oh, all right.. --Peng 11:44, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * http://whois.sc/newegg.com says la puente - Brewthatistrue 5 July 2005 22:59 (UTC)


 * Another relevant piece of information is that this archive.org about us page indicates by their own admission that the company existed since 1991. However, their domain was registered in February of 2000. Where they previously some other company? Their current about us page makes no mention of this establishment date.  Although I know some companies like to lie about their age when they are new or small. Maybe that was some ambitious marketing guy doing that. -- Suso (talk) 17:22, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Fake Intel Processors Controvery
someone should address this considering that they sent cease and desist letters to small websites and made official statements to the technology press that directly conflict with statements that Intel has made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.15.24.114 (talk) 01:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Chiefvalue.com
seems to be the same company  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brewthatistrue (talk • contribs) 22:59, 5 July 2005 (UTC)


 * a) Look at the WHOIS info for CV. It's registered to ABS Computers, which is tied to Newegg.
 * b) Look at the contact info. Notice how the mailing address is identical to that of Newegg's? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.204.2 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The [Trademark] to "ChiefValue" is registered to NewEgg Inc. In the end, I think it boils down to ChiefValue being owned by Fred Chang, just like ABS (of which there were several: ABS, ABS computer services, ABS technologies), NuTrend, and Magnell Associates (which owns the trademark "NewEgg"). 71.139.165.27 (talk) 11:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Chief Value is NOT Newegg
Despite contrary evidence provided by Chief Value this rumor persists! Why?; Chief value shares a warehouse, both sell similar products, and both are offered similar discounts by said warehouse which they then pass on to the consumer. Everything points to a single poster who disappeared after providing unsubstantiated “evidence” on reseller ratings forum. Chief Value provided the following when asked,

WHEN DO WE DELETE THE ABOVE INFORMATION WHEN WE KNOW IT TO BE FALSE? CHIEF VALUE IS LISTED ON RESELLERRATINGS.COM AS "CHIEF VALUE, A NEWEGG COMPANY" AND CHIEF VALUE HAS A HISTORY OF ACTIVELY RESPONDING TO RESELLERRATING COMPLAINTS. THEY ARE CLEARLY THE SAME COMPANY. IF ANYTHING REGARDING THIS MATTER SHOULD BE IN THE ARTICLE, IT SHOULD BE SPECULATION AS TO WHY THE COMPANY ACTIVELY TRIED TO HIDE ITS OWNERSHIP RELATIONSHIPS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.127.160 (talk) 12:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent email. Chiefvalue is in fact not related to Newegg. We are owned by Two separate owners, neither of which are Newegg. However there is always some confusion as we use the same distribution warehouse as they do. This is very similar to as if a distribution warehouse that sells to both Circuit City and Best Buy, but are not the same company. I hope I have been able to answer your questions the best I can. If you have any further questions, feel free to send us an email or give us a call at 1-888-611-4165. Thank you. Sincerely, Minh Ho Customer Service Representative


 * I don't buy their explanation. They use the exact same warehouses that Newegg uses with the same inventory. Makes no sense for them to have different owners to me. Slides


 * Ever heard of Virtual Fulfillment? A warehouse can ship for multiple unrelated vendors.  In fact, if you order big ticket items (such as expensive printers and copiers), oftentimes regardless of who you order it from, they all ship from the same distribution warehouse directly from large distributors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.197.247  (talk • contribs) 17:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * But it doesn't explain the startling similarity between the sites, and does sharing warehouses require pricing the products the same and having sell outs at about the same time?


 * While this may have been the case in the past, Chief Value does seem to be owned by NewEgg now. At the bottom of the chiefvalue site, it says it is a NewEgg Inc. company. They might be operated independently, but from the text on the site I don't see how they could currently say they are not related and owned by separate owners. Dpeters11 18:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

The website no longer states this. However, the evidence has been overwhelmingly supportive of more than a casual connection between Newegg and Chief Value, in spite of a written denial by a Chief Value employee (assuming an employee would even know beyond what they were told). What the Chief Value employee denied was that Newegg and Chief Value are the same company nor do they have the same owner. That much may have been true.

Newegg was originally a subsidiary of ABS Computers, which itself had somewhat of a convoluted history with a company named NuTrend. Back in the day (1995 ~ 1998), ABS and NuTrend were two business entities operating side-by-side under the same roof with different mailing address and phone numbers. Both took out separate advertisements in Computer Shopper as different companies. However, you could order from ABS and your invoice might arrive with NuTrend printed on it. In 2004, NuTrend 'merged' into ABS Computer, though it was clear a relationship existed long before, or many industry sources would not have been referring to them as ABS/NuTrend as early as 1998. Moving along...

Chief Value is later created from ABS as well, making both Newegg and Chief Value subsidiaries of ABS. At this point, both would have the same parent company, but the subsidiaries are in fact two different legal entities. Then ABS becomes a subsidiary of Newegg, while Chief Value remains a subsidiary of ABS.

That would make the claim of the Chief Value employee true; Newegg and Chief Value are not the same company, both have different owners. Chief Value is owned by ABS while ABS is owned by Newegg. Newegg itself may be further owned by some other holding or parent company.--Brewster1971 (talk) 04:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)


 * https://seal.verisign.com/splash?form_file=fdf/splash.fdf&dn=SECURE.CHIEFVALUE.COM&lang=en

If they want to discredit these sorts of rumors perhaps they should, uh, you know, get their own certificate signed... Howdoesthiswo (talk) 18:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC) (Bah I need to remember to sign in more often)

Then Should I delete the reference to Chiefvalue? For Now I am going to tag it as in dispute. Walrus1 (talk) 14:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Here's the evidence right from their own page: A Newegg, Inc. Company. That plus their Verisign SSL certificate provide enough evidence to convince me that they are a subsidiary of Newegg. Nobody's offered any verifiable evidence against this (just a private e-mail that cannot be verified at all) for the 3 days the tag has been up - so it's time to take it down. --Tjsynkral (talk) 06:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Newegg's Cult of Personality
The connection of a Cult of personality with Newegg may sound a bit odd at first, but I would like someone to comment about this. Repeatedly throughout Newegg's product reviews as well as testimony that I have heard from individuals, I encounter massive exultation of Newegg, almost to the point of disbelief and making me believe that such interest is manufacturered or adulterated. Are individual consumers really that satisfied with this firm, or does the firm just undersell expectations to its consumers? In any case, it appears that Newegg has certainly harvested a loyal customer base. Mattp3d 06:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
 * As a long-time customer of Newegg myself, I can truthfully say that I believe such enthusiasm and customer loyalty to be completely genuine. Newegg is widely known in the computer hardware/gaming community as having some of the best prices for components along with good customer service and return policies.  I am personally a big fan of their customer reviews, which number in the dozens or hundreds for most products -- it's very easy to see what experiences others have had with the product you're thinking about buying.  Much of the support also comes from the fact that Newegg's shipping partner, FedEx, often delivers items a day earlier than the tracking info leads the customer to believe...  So sometimes people attribute that "nice surprise" to Newegg, when in fact it was FedEx who made the early delivery.  It could be that FedEx deliberately overestimates shipping times, I don't know.  (They've recently added UPS as a shipping option as well.) --Nothlit 20:59, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm also a fan of Newegg's prices, delivery speed, and customer relations practices, and have purchased from them many times. Newegg does have a solid reputation with the tech crowd, with goodwill similar to what Google has.  On the occassions when there's a problem, I've never had difficulty contacting their support and getting a live person.  And the Fedex factor, ease of tracking, and never late delivery dates (not sure if credit goes to Fedex or Newegg for putting pressure on them) is also part of the reason.  So I don't find the praise to be artificially manufactured.  But I will note one cavaet about the reviews posted on their website -- any really negative ones are removed by their staff.  They state that the reviews are there for promotional purposes.  You might get away with a slightly  negative review if you say the product isn't that good but newegg still rocks, or say that this product isn't as good as another product on newegg.  But if you say very negative things in your review, Newegg will remove your review b/c it might "hurt sales." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.205.180.171 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 11 December 2005


 * It's no trick - the company is genuinely that good. I've never done business with any company that has fostered loyalty in me like NewEgg does.  They are a phenomenal company, and I really can't think of any other company that I've ever done business with that compares.  They're known to have an extremely helpful RMA process - I've never heard of a single person who received a damaged or otherwise unsatisfactory product that NewEgg refused to take back and replace.  When it comes to vendors, I'm an extremely demanding person - I expect to get my money's worth.  That said, I really can't think of a single knock against NewEgg.  They have become the store for the computer building and gaming community.  Sorry for ranting, but I just wanted to stress how great of a company they are, and that the testimonials you see on their website are genuine.--CBrewster 18:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, the reviews are censored, but you can generally get away with telling the truth about a bad product if you mention a lot of irrelevant "pros", and most reviewers know this.. so don't trust the average # of stars, but otherwise the reviews aren't too inaccurate. Anyway, yes newegg does have a cult fanbase that borders on fanaticism. I love the egg myself, my stuff always ships in less than half an hour on weekdays and gets here in about 2 days. Also I hear rave reviews for their RMA process (returns).. apparently newegg will replace it for any reason at all if you just ask. --⁪frotht 00:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What? As far as I can tell the reviews are only censored when they are nonsense ("I didn't buy this but my uncle says they are bad!" kind of stuff). I've seen loads of bad reviews for products, and you can almost always rely on the reviews to tell you your odds of getting dead hardware (search reviews for "DOA" and divide by total reviews). Some people have had bad experiences with NewEgg, but I've never met one. I personally bought a full set of hardware for a new computer build, and only problem was the keyboard/mouse combo. If you post in the forum about it, they will even refund you shipping costs! NewEgg steals our hearts. (Plus, they make us drink special chemicals. And they don't let us out of this basement! Help!)


 * They used to clearly state that reviews were censored to remove reviews that bash the products. It hardly looks like this is the case now -- I have seen some items with long strings of "omg this sux" reviews. Anyway, I don't think the customer satisfaction is trumped up. I think they do good work, and I can't think of anyone in my social circles that disagrees. Restocking fees are a downside, but counterbalanced by detailed information before shipping. Any mention of customer opinions should be sourced, though... 24.10.209.142 (talk) 18:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC) This is me forgetting to sign in. Howdoesthiswo (talk) 18:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

71.139.165.27 (talk) 11:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

NO REAL MAJOR CONCERNS

 * I have made many purchases from newegg, and I have never received anything that I didn't order. I feel comfortable about that part of their operation.  I, too, wonder about the shipping amounts, but I'm not concerned enough about it to do the detective work that would be required.  The one thing that upsets me more than anything is the length of time it takes them to process my orders prior to getting them into the hands of the shippers(UPS or FEDEX).  Only one was shipped expeditiously, and it was a single item order.  Still other single item orders did not fair as well.  I know that they don't always have the best prices either, but from my experience so far, if they are close, I'll order from them because I know what to expect.  It's like doing business with an old friend; he may not be the cheapest or the fastest, but you know, usually, what the end result will be.  I think that there is somewhat of the cult effervescence involved, too, but I guess everybody wants to be part of something positive. --cerberus 03:09, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Who owns who?
On the ABS computer page, it states that Newegg owns the ABS (aka Always Better Service). However, on the Newegg page it says that ABS owns Newegg. Which is the correct statement? --Nick2253 23:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Did some (Google) research and found this article. ABS is now a subsidiary of Newegg and I've fixed the article to reflect that. -- theSpectator talk 04:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

In Europe
I could've sworn I read something about NewEgg opening a site for the UK. What happened? The_Irrelevant_One 11:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I remember the same thing, I read it hear: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=28938 so a not to be trusted source spreading rumour unconfirmed and none materialised —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.110.85.248 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah, that's too bad...I think I read it at The Register. The_Irrelevant_One 11:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Contradiction
In the beginning of the article, it says the name comes form a Taiwanese Philosophy. In the last section it says it is from a Chinese philosophy. I think it needs to be adressed as to which one it really comes from. Alex43223Talk 04:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I took the easy way out by removing both countries and slapping a tag on the line. Regardless of the country of origin, it is going to need to be sourced. Koweja 16:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Taiwan is(was) part of China, though there are also intensive political argument for this claim. It is 90% safe to say Taiwanese philosophy= Chinese philosophy. But I am not sure in this case because I am not aware of any prominent Chinese philosophy related to new egg. --Leo 12:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the last thing that is needed is more "Taiwan (is || not is) China" edit wars... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howdoesthiswo (talk • contribs) 18:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Canada
I've completely removed the section on Newegg in Canada. The newegg.ca domain is now a front for bmnq.com, so it seems they lost the domain. Aside from that there is no real evidence, just rumors and speculation, with the only source being a single unofficial forum post which is obviously wrong. Koweja 17:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like newegg.ca is now back with NewEgg. 75.172.20.93 (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your statement. I have personally recieved an email from the Newegg administration confirming this desire of expansion. Jo9100 02:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The desire was there and the plan was all formulated. It was some internal conflict that caused the pause in execution of any immediate expansion plans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.66.162 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

NewEgg's prices
I think that there should be something about NewEgg's lower-than-most-competition prices and also about their spontaneus sales (like for instance the AMD X2 5200 might be 80$ cheaper than the 5000, and then the next day it's gone). If anybody could word it encyclopedicly I think something along those lines should be added. -Anonymous —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * Price lower than average price is actually norm in the retail industry. It is made possible in two fashions:


 * Internal marketing budget: By offering certain items below cost (loss-leader), the retailer hopes to attract customers to also purchase other high-margin items (profit-leader).  Items are strategically chosen base on heavy internal data analysis.


 * Back End Rebate: Manufacturers often offer back-end cash to retailers for various reasons. For example, product placement on homepage or on retailer's printed advertisements are paid for by manufacturers, commonly known as MDF (market development fund), are paid to retailers.  Retailers often make huge profits on such MDF funds, it is possible to divert some of MDF funds into subsidizing offering products for sale below cost.  VIR (Volumn Incentive Rebate) is also a type of back-end rebate offered to retailers as incentive to aggressively promote their items.  In short, more money are paid to retailers the more they sale a particular product.  COOP is also money paid to retailers to help manufactures promote certain products using channels available only to the retailers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.197.247 (talk • contribs) 23:08, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Website broken on Macs?
Is it just me, or does Newegg's sorting functions no longer work? I've tried Safari, Firefox, and Opera on numerous Mac OS X systems and none of them work correctly anymore (Newegg did a site upgrade in July 07). I've contacted them twice by email about the problem, they never got back to me.

Does anyone have recommendations for another vendor to do business with? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.134.122.35 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * How is this question related to Newegg's article on Wikipedia? This isn't a blog or tech forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.167.75.11 (talk • contribs) 17:33 2 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This question is unwarranted. --proficient (talk) 22:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * IT'S PROOF THAT NEWEGG IS A PAWN OF MICROSOFT, YOU FOOL. LIKE THE REST OF THE LAME EDITORS HERE YOU HAVE BEEN DUPED BY THE BORG! Or something... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.172.20.93 (talk) 23:52, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

RMAs
I was wondering the source of the following statement:

"In addition, Newegg takes two weeks to process returns for replacement or refund. Also note that many popular items are unavailable for return for refund.[9]"

According to the FAQs about returns:

"It takes 2-5 business days for us to process and re-ship or issue a refund once we receive the product."

I checked the notation and it says nothing about two weeks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.81.210.247 (talk) 19:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

shell shockers
someone want to add something about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.148.224.70 (talk) 15:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think there is a need. That is just another promotion by Newegg. If you added Shell Shockers, shouldn't you also add the contests, Newegg rebates, and the Newegg promo discounts? Those are just their promotions, and I don't think there's a proper place for those.shawn1cai (talk) 19:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Name source?
Where did the name "NewEgg" come from, how was that chosen? I seem to recall some other "egg" online computer store website operating pre-2001. I always thought newegg.com was created as the reformation of that company. Does anyone else remember this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonkeirstead (talk • contribs) 01:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There was a retail chain called Egghead Computers that moved its operations online in 1998. They do not appear to be related to Newegg.   Soap Talk/Contributions 00:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

To clarify, I found this site http://xenomorph.net/newegg/, with the following statement supposedly from NewEgg.com staff: You are not the first person to question the connection between our two companies. There is no connection between NewEgg.com and the old EggHead Software. You wouldn’t believe the volume of customers who write us emails declaring “EggHead is my favorite store!” or “I’ve been shopping with you since the old EggHead Software days.” Huh? But seriously, there isn’t any relation other than the fact that our names sound similar and may look so in writing, and that we both cater to computer users. It is evident though that they must have made some of their customers happy because they appear pleased to be shopping with them again, even though we must politely inform them that we are our own entity entirely.

Regards, William Lazaro’

Newegg and Apple corporate dispute
Newegg has dropped all Apple products. There may be a rumor of a dispute between the two companies or a change in Apple's vendor policy. This is not a story yet, but it is worth monitoring for significance. Anthony717 (talk) 16:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Newegg "Lite" version not functional
The link to Newegg's "Lite" page can be removed, as it no longer works.75.65.44.82 (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. The only link needed to represent Newegg.com is Newegg.com.  99.189.76.142 (talk) 04:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Newegg and Textbooks
Have y'all noticed that they seem to now be doing textbooks? Checkout their site.

Also, they seem to have done a partnership deal with Valore books as you can see in the Room Makeover thing here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.22.1.10 (talk) 21:33, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

A lot of fluff here
Seems like there is a lot of corporate editing on this page. Stuff like "In 2011, Newegg added three independent Board of Director members: Lycos co-founder Bill Townsend, Tim Maudlin and Greg Moore.", regular customers of the website would not know such details. And IF people were somehow interested in such details (which is extremely doubtful), shouldn't there be a section listing all the directors and such? Anyway, if no objection noted, I will delete this extra fluff. MarcoPolo419 (talk) 09:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I have a objection to this. Your assertions that a customer would not know such info is incorrect. I knew it. I happen to read Buisness Week and last I checked its a fairly large publication in print and online. It lists ALL the Board Members and could be found as the first hit in a basic search as well as the announcement when those members were added.. Knowing prominent business individual can be quite important to some buyers this includes those that may not be the individual private consumer. Deleting false or inaccurate info is one thing deleting info based on person opinions is entirely different and IMO a slippery slope.

To add to the completeness so there is no feel of marketing bias here is all the board members as I know them to be:

Board Of Directors:

Insiders: Fred Chang: Co-Founder, Chairman, Global Chief Executive Officer and President of China Shih-Chi Lee: Director, Chief Executive Officer of Newegg North America and Acting President of North America Operations Ken Lam: Vice Chairman of Newegg Inc

Other Member: Timothy Maudlin CPA: Critical Care Systems International Inc. Gregory Moore: Texas Roadhouse, Inc. Deven Parekh: Insight Venture Partners Bill Townsend: Powered Outcomes, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.38.205 (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)