Talk:NewsPim

Notability discussion copied from User Talk:Rosguill
You moved NewsPim to Draft:NewsPim because it doesn't have enough references. But NewsPim is a Korean newspaper so it doesn't have enough English references.

It has three English references, Bloomberg, NewsBeezer and Bitcoin.com.

https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=208512539

https://newsbeezer.com/koreaeng/newspim-trump-tariffs-not-trade-aimed-at-north-korea/

https://news.bitcoin.com/korean-government-regulatory-plans-crypto-exchange-hacks/

And it has a Korean Wikipedia page.

https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/뉴스핌

--Berryball (talk) 18:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to provide Korean-language sources. However, the sources currently on the Korean wiki page are not helpful. One is the same Bloomberg page you already provided, and which is a company profile that doesn't demonstrate in-depth coverage at a secondary source. The other is a link to NewsPim itself, which is not independent of the subject. Moreover, the mere existence of a Korean wikipedia page itself does nothing to demonstrate notability, as Wikipedia is not a reliable source. In order to demonstrate notability, please provide either in-depth coverage in an independent, reliable source, or provide citations to reliable, independent sources demonstrating that NewsPim is a major and/or influential publication. signed,Rosguill talk 18:56, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Is Bitcoin.com also not enough?

https://news.bitcoin.com/korean-government-regulatory-plans-crypto-exchange-hacks/

It cited Newspim as a news source.

"Ministry of Environment" of South Korean government cited Newspim (Ko: 뉴스핌).

http://www.me.go.kr/home/web/board/read.do;jsessionid=gSNcoG1AS3oQrDa18LEe135JmNCxu4TuKrNyzyZZEk1Sa6lGMOKfBdpghGLMC3uH.meweb2vhost_servlet_engine1?pagerOffset=0&maxPageItems=10&maxIndexPages=10&searchKey=&searchValue=&menuId=286&orgCd=&boardId=862260&boardMasterId=1&boardCategoryId=40&decorator=

South Korean government's "Ministry of Economy and Finance" also cited Newspim.

http://www.moef.go.kr/nw/nes/detailNesDtaView.do?searchBbsId=MOSFBBS_000000000029&menuNo=4010200&searchNttId=MOSF_000000000018828

--Berryball (talk) 18:59, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I would not consider a mention of re-reporting at bitcoin.com to be enough. For one, bitcoin.com doesn't appear to be a reliable source, as they don't say anything about their editorial practices on their website, and have a pretty clear conflict of interest with the well-being of Bitcoin (previous discussions on the reliable sources noticeboard support this conclusion). Additionally, even if Bitcoin.com were a reliable source, merely re-reporting NewsPim's coverage doesn't satisfy wikipedia's general notability guideline. If you want to try to sidestep the guideline which specifies that there must be in-depth coverage, I would expect you to provide multiple examples of reliable sources (New York Times, Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, Le Monde, Al Jazeera, academic journals specializing in Asia or Korea, etc.) re-reporting NewsPim, or otherwise identifying it as a major publication with wide readership in South Korea. The citation to the Ministry of Environment is a step in the right direction. Find a few more citations of that quality or better and I'd consider notability met. I don't see anything in the Ministry of Economy and Finance source mentioning NewsPim, but that could have been a translator error. signed,Rosguill talk 19:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)19:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Are two government ministries, "Ministry of Environment" and "Ministry of Economy and Finance", also not enough?

You can find the word "뉴스핌" in the Ministry of Economy and Finance web page.

--Berryball (talk) 19:23, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

At this point I'm uncertain. In the strictest sense, notability still hasn't been demonstrated, as I haven't seen any in-depth coverage about NewsPim. However, if multiple government agencies are citing it, that's an indication that it is treated as a serious news source by the South Korean government, and likely also by at least part of the South Korean population. As someone who does not speak Korean and isn't particularly familiar with the South Korean media and political landscape, I'd have to say that I don't feel qualified to judge whether the provided sources sufficiently establish that NewsPim is notable. Feel free to re-submit the article for review, I won't vote against it, but I'd like another new page reviewer to take a look at it. Alternatively, if you can find more reliable sources re-reporting NewsPim (preferably not affiliated with the government, as you have already demonstrated that they take NewsPim reports seriously–more government agencies don't really demonstrate anything on top of what you already have), or in-depth coverage at an independent reliable source, I would be happy to approve the article myself. signed,Rosguill talk 19:40, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

NewsPim is one of news sources of Factiva that is a business information and research tool owned by Dow Jones & Company.

https://archive.is/20He4

https://archive.is/aB3oh

pdf file: https://dow-jones-2097.docs.contently.com/print/106981?raw_file=true

The pdf file includes 18 Korean newspapers and NewsPim is one of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berryball (talk • contribs) 20:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

--Berryball (talk) 20:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, that looks good enough to me. Thanks for all the work you've put into this. signed,Rosguill talk 20:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Anyway, I found one more. ;)

Koscom - Newspim signed strategic alliance

http://www.ddaily.co.kr/news/article.html?no=9215

--Berryball (talk) 20:52, 7 October 2018 (UTC)