Talk:News media phone hacking scandal reference lists

Images
Additional images that might be appropriate for this article include:
 * Mary Ellen Field (who reportedly lost $250K annual income due to phone hacking)
 * David Cook (Met detective whose personal info was compromised by Mulcaire, assisting surveillance of Cook by murder suspects while he was investigating them.)
 * Gordon Taylor (His suit led to disclosure of the "For Neville" email.)
 * Nick Davies
 * Justice Geoffrey Vos (judge for civil suits)
 * John Whittington during a session of the Culture, Media and Sport Committee
 * Daily Mail front page
 * Daily Mirror front page
 * Paul McMullan
 * Inquiry chair Lord Leveson
 * Richard Thomas (ICO)
 * Sir Paul Stephenson
 * John Yates
 * Jonathan Rees
 * Steve Whittamore or John Boyall
 * Clive Goodman
 * Glenn Mulcaire
 * Les Hinton
 * Rebekah Brooks
 * Andy Coulson
 * James and Rupert Murdoch testifying before the Culture, Media, and Sport Committee
 * Tom Crone or Colin Myler
 * The "For Neville" email
 * The redacted Clive Goodman letter to Daniel Cloke

Bryantbob (talk) 18:54, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Number of arrests under each named police operation
The numbering of arrests for the various police operations is estimated based upon numerous sources, some of which may be conflicting. As of 30 August 2012, the list in this article shows the arrest of Tom Crone as the 27th made under Operation Weeting while The Guardian reports it as the 25th. Additions and corrections to this list by anyone with accurate information would be welcome.

The list in this article shows an estimate for the total number of people arrested under each named police operation and then makes an adjustment for individuals arrested for under more than one operation. As of 30 August 2012, the adjustment of 8 individuals for arrests included under more than one operation is comprised of:


 * -1 Clive Goodman arrested in 2006 as Royal #1 and in 2011 as Elveden #2.
 * -1 Glenn Mulcaire arrested in 2006 as Royal #2 and in 2011 as Weeting #16.
 * -2 Andy Coulson arrested in 2011 as Weeting #6 and Elveden #1 and in 2012 as Rubicon #1.
 * -1 63 year-old man arrested in 2011 as Weeting #7 and Elveden #3.
 * -1 Rebekah Brooks arrested in 2011 as Weeting #9 and Elveden #4.
 * -1 Stuart Kuttner arrested in 2011 as Weeting #10 and Elevden # 5.
 * -1 Nick Parker arrested in 2012 as Elevden #18 and Tuleta #8.
 * -8 Total adjustment for arrests under multiple named police operations.Bryantbob (talk) 14:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
 * -8 Total adjustment for arrests under multiple named police operations.Bryantbob (talk) 14:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The difference for the number of arrests under Operation Wheeting between this article's count of 27 vs. the Guardian's count of 25 is the result of:
 * *The 63 year-old man arrested 8 July 2011 (whose identity was not reported) was reported by the Guardian as "arrested and bailed as part of Operation Weeting and Operation Elveden" but counted by the Guardian as only "Elveden (arrest 3)". This article counted the arrest as both Elveden #3 and Weeting #7.
 * *The 51 year-old police detective arrested 19 August 2011 (whose identity was not reported) on suspicion of misconduct in public office over alleged unauthorised leaks from the Operation Weeting phone-hacking inquiry was not counted by the Guardian as an arrest under any of the named police operations. This article counted the arrest as Weeting #14.  Bryantbob (talk) 18:31, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I renumbered the Weeting arrests in the article to correspond with the numbers reported by The Guardian. One of the "Operation Weeting" arrests previously included in the article had also been included under "Operation Elvedon" so the "adjustment" number declined from -8 to -7. The 10 individuals referred to in the article that had not been arrested before the Met renewed investigations in 2011 were the 9 arrested under "Operation Nigeria" plus David Craig under the "Royal/Goodman Inquiry." Thurlbeck, Goodman, and Mulcaire all had been arrested both before and after renewal of investigations. Bryantbob (talk) 03:56, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Renumbered arrests again, this time including the three arrests for which there was no named police operation.
 * -1 Neville Thurlbeck arrested in 1999 under no named police operation and again in 2012 as Weeting #2.
 * -1 Clive Goodman arrested in 2006 as Royal #1 and in 2011 as Elveden #2.
 * -1 Glenn Mulcaire arrested in 2006 as Royal #2 and in 2011 as Weeting #14.
 * -2 Andy Coulson arrested in 2011 as Weeting #6 and Elveden #1 and in 2012 as Rubicon #1.
 * -1 Rebekah Brooks arrested in 2011 as Weeting #8 and Elveden #4.
 * -1 Stuart Kuttner arrested in 2011 as Weeting #9 and Elevden # 5.
 * -1 Nick Parker arrested in 2012 as Elevden #18 and Tuleta #8.
 * -8 Total adjustment for arrests under multiple named police operations.Bryantbob (talk) 00:56, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * -8 Total adjustment for arrests under multiple named police operations.Bryantbob (talk) 00:56, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

On 20 September, The Guardian reported the 14th arrest under Operation Tuleta. The reference list shows this as only #12, indicating two Tuleta arrests may be missing. Reconciled to The Guardian's number using info from BBC's "Phone hacking: Arrests by investigation" list as of 7 Sept 2012. Bryantbob (talk) 17:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Number of Persons Charged
The list of persons charged include some that have been charged more than once:
 * -1 Neville Thurlbeck in 1999 and 2012
 * -1 Clive Goodman in 2006 and 2012
 * -1 Glenn Mulcaire in 2006 and 2012
 * -1 Rebekah Brooks in May 2012 and July 2012
 * -1 Andy Coulsen in May 2012 and July 2012
 * -5 Total adjustment to number of charges to obtain number of persons charged Bryantbob (talk) 02:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * -5 Total adjustment to number of charges to obtain number of persons charged Bryantbob (talk) 02:07, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Split article
Split - I think that many of the lists in this article can be split apart from the article, such as the list of victims, due to article size.--Jax 0677 (talk) 04:31, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Article renamed by moving
The name of this article has been updated to reflect the scope of its content (not limited to a single company) and to use the same descriptor (i.e., "news media phone hacking scandal") for the several narrative articles and the related reference lists article. (See Moving a page). The articles currently comprising the named group of "news media phone hacking scandal" articles include:
 * News media phone hacking scandal
 * News media phone hacking scandal reference lists
 * Metropolitan Police role in the news media phone hacking scandal
 * News media phone hacking scandal comparisons with Watergate

The group might better use the shorter descriptor, simply "phone hacking scandal," but this name appears not to be available because previous articles have used it and redirect to current articles.

The principle article in this group is News media phone hacking scandal, which provides an overview of the scandal that raised concerns about illegal acquisition of confidential information by news media organizations in the United Kingdom, the United States and Australia between 1995 and 2012. More detail for the scandal is contained in the extensive News media phone hacking scandal reference lists and in the several Wikipedia articles covering the scandal as it developed from the vantage point of specific news media organizations. For example:
 * News of the World royal phone hacking scandal)
 * News International phone hacking scandal
 * News Corporation scandal
 * etc.

Bryantbob (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Why is link from this Wikipedia entry to Wikipedia entry about payments redirected back to this page?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_hacking_scandal_reference_lists#Payments

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_news_media_phone_hacking_scandal_civil_suits,_payments_and_commercial_consequences&redirect=no

Once that matter is settled, is information like from the following article included? http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/feb/27/charlotte-church-phone-hacking-settled Detailaware (talk) 18:19, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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