Talk:Newton-le-Willows

Name origins
Why is it called le willows? Any1 know? - Light current


 * It originates from the French, should be newton in the willows,, ther are a couple of indications around the town one in particular Crow Lane,,,,,started life as croix lane ( croix ) being french for cross but the locals had problems with pronouncing croix and in turn inadvertantly named it crow...Very historical town, fantastic historical past, lovely place. - 195.188.152.16


 * Ive lived in this town for 17 years now and it has changed alot in this time. I think i was told the "le" had some connection to the leigh family who once owned alot of land around newton. I dont know if its peoples accents or their preference but i know people who pronounce it newton "leigh" willows instead of newton "le" willows. - 82.42.44.188

Le < In The
Its just a shortened version of 'in the', it was thought by the Urban District Counclil at the time, that Newton in Makerfield, was being mixed with Ashton in Makerfield, Ince in Makerfield, etc.

Newton le Willillows was already in popular use, so the name was changed to that. Newton in the Willows is shown on 16th century maps, and probably describes well the village, as in that period it was based more around the Vally sides of Newton and Dean Brooks, and probably centered more alng these two brooks between the current Legh Arms and Castle Hill/M6

Remembering that the Lake in Willow park was only dammed in approx 1853, so the valley would have been more populated, there were cottages opposite castle hill, and wells in the valley floor, and a sand stone quarry where the Lake now is. - 82.42.43.23


 * Newton-le-Willows was called Newton in Makerfeild, with an independant council, until very recently. - Joed293

That's the second time I've heard that. I worked at The Vulcan in the late '70s, and a late-middle-aged typist in my office told how as a child at school she was 'taught' to write her address as 'Newton-le-Willows' from then on. I would guess that she was born somewhere in the late 1920s, so maybe the change from 'Newton in Makerfield' was made official around 1930 - 33?? 5.81.74.71 (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

POV
the final sentence "2005 has seen proposals, vehemently opposed by the majority of local residents, to build a new rail freight terminal on the site of the former Parkside coal mine." seems sligtly pov to me especially as this is meant to be an encyclopedia. also were is the citation for this.Corustar 20:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Changed this section a little to make it less POV. - Calindreams

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Tittle and lead-in
The title is Newton-le-Willows: the text refers to Makerfield - but there is nothing in the lead-in to indicate the connection between the two. Jackiespeel (talk) 12:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Newton-le-Willows page
The introduction should be ... "a town in between Manchester and Liverpool in North West, England" and remove the St Helens Borough and Merseyside area. This will confuse people into thinking that Newton-le-Willows is part of Liverpool when it's actually closer to Manchester. Laurence1024 (talk) 20:38, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Erm no it isn't because it's in the borough of st Helens and it's needed in lead there are other towns between Manchester and Liverpool and none have the silly between Manchester and Liverpool section. They have the borough and then miles. Newton le willows isn't an exception to this. And by the way Merseyside is more than just Liverpool in it. So this suggestion is just silly RailwayJG (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

And by the way the geography section already mentions it being between Greater Manchester and Merseyside so it isn't needed twice. RailwayJG (talk) 22:13, 24 March 2021 (UTC)


 * This article is a geographical mess anyway. It's talking about NLW but seems caught up between Parish / Rural District / Newton / Earlestown. Koncorde (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

When I get the chance I'll revaluate the whole geographical section and find reliable sources or geographical things to give a clearer section RailwayJG (talk) 17:58, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Anon
Seems our friendly neighborhood anon is back to vandalise the lead again. Maybe a block should be put on them RailwayJG (talk) 00:36, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah flagged their page for final warning a week or so ago and now have reported them for Admin intervention. Koncorde (talk) 07:58, 22 June 2021 (UTC)