Talk:Người Việt

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... POV-driven article deletion by sockpuppeting user Jspeed1310, and, this article and all other articles involving that user is undergoing administrator resolution by Vsmith (more admins may follow) --Nguyễn Quốc Việt (talk) 10:36, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * answer me a simple question:"what different between northern vietnamese to all vietnamese to have their own article?"Jspeed1310 (talk) 11:52, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * answer my question. what is wrong about an article explaining about the history of Northern Vietnam? what is wrong about an article explaining about the geography of Northern Vietnam? what is wrong about an article exhibiting a well-known piece of Vietnamese poetry? you cannot delete things just because you don't like it. also, you're suspected of being a chuyên gia bút chiến, which is unwelcomed here on English Wikipedia, and especially since paid editting often includes conflict of interest (COI) hand-in-hand, COI is STRICTLY prohibited according to our policies here. Nguyễn Quốc Việt (talk) 12:06, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

that is what you call "history of Northern Vietnam", "geography of Northern Vietnam". did you ever ever read this article you protect. show me where is history, show me where is geography. all i see is such a dumbass racism to people from other region. yeah, i hate it, but most of all it's nonsense, unneutral to write. and you still don't answer me what's it different to have it's own article.btw this article was written by a member in vi-wiki (danvn), it was immediately deleted and now it is written again in en-wikiJspeed1310 (talk) 12:22, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Read the article, and you'll find a large section for each that i mentioned. It is not "racist" in any way, the article just denotes how some southern Vietnamese, Nam kys, unfortunately use the term "Bac ky" in a derogatory manner, just as how the F**k article mentions how that word is used in a derogatory manner by Anglophones, or theJap or Kraut are used in the West to deragotorially refer to Japanese and German people respectively. It is also neutral and it is strange that you tell me that. Just as how in Viet wiki they have articles about North, Central and South VN, this article is no different. To redirect to Tonkin, the French colony, is incorrect because this article doesn't discuss the French colony only. If you have concerns about it, please tell me specifically what they are and we can work together to improve. But you going around and blanking stuff and sockpuppeting and edit warring is not the way to go. As to your question, yes there is some regional differences between the 3 Viet regions, that is why the Northern and Southern Vietnam article was written. Nguyễn Quốc Việt (talk) 12:49, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I declined to speedily delete this. This is because there is non-trivial editing history and the debate seems to be about the content of the article, or whether or not it should be a redirect pointing somewhere, and discussion already involves arguments that go way beyond what is typical for CSDs. The request also did not match any of the CSD criterias. Further blanking of this article/redirect should be considered as vandalism and reverted. jni (talk) 14:41, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

"Just as how in Viet wiki they have articles about North, Central and South VN, this article is no different".so what did you edit? (1, 2, 3). i think you're misunderstood about the term "dân bắc kỳ" & the article "northern vietnamese". this article should be write about how this term is used by southern Vietnamese like "jap" or "Kraut". it's different to "northern vietnamese". "tonkin" is only used in english, no one in vietnam used tonkin or tonkiness when say about "northern vietnamese". the way you use that term instead of an article "northern vietnamese" when you talk about northern vietnamese. that's un neutral. sorry, my english is bad.Jspeed1310 (talk) 06:16, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
 * geography: Northern Vietnam
 * history: History of Vietnam (from 2879 BC-1527, it's already northern history)
 * human: vietnamese people