Talk:Nick Goiran/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Z1720 (talk · contribs) 19:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article shortly. Please ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


 * GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):  d (copyvio and plagiarism):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:

Comments:


 * "Following the reveal of that group, Goiran has faced pushes to resign or be expelled from the Liberal Party." -> "Following the reveal of that group, Goiran has faced calls for his resignation or to be expelled from the Liberal Party." To tighten up the language and avoid an MOS:IDIOM (with push).
 * Done.
 * "In December 2000, after graduating, Goiran was admitted to the Supreme Court of Western Australia as a barrister and solicitor." after graduating can be omitted from this sentence, because the previous sentence mentioned the graduation so readers would assume that this event takes place afterward.
 * Done.
 * "18 months later, he became an equity partner." Equity partner of what? Does a source disclose the name of the law firm?
 * I've redone that paragraph seeing as the Parliament of Western Australia biography has recently got lots of new information on Goiran. I've made the bit on his law career vaguer, seeing as I don't think the specific details are that important. Edit: found a new source so now we know what firm he was at. The source says that was when "Goiran’s legal career peaked", so I think it's worthy of inclusion.
 * "Goiran sold his equity in the firm and joined another law firm," Any information about this other law firm?
 * See above.
 * " Around 2007," The source says 2007, so "around" should be replaced with "in", to be more precise.
 * See above.
 * I am concerned that most of the "Early life" section is supported by a single, primary source. Are there other sources that can give information about his early life?
 * I've now used the parliament biography as well, as it recently added new information.
 * The "Political career" section is quite long and suffers from too much detail and is not concise. Here are some places where the prose can be tightened up or deleted:
 * The exact dates that he was sworn into various positions is not necessary. Instead, just put the month and the year.
 * Done.
 * "Goiran was in the newly created position of parliamentary secretary to the minister for mental health and minister for child protection from 23 September 2016 to 17 March 2017, the day that the Labor Party was sworn in to government." -> On 23 September 2016, Goiran became the first parliamentary secretary to the minister for mental health and minister for child protection." The end date is not necessary, as the next sentence will describe his new position. Also, the reader does not need to know that this was the same day that the Labor Party was sworn into government.
 * Done.
 * "From 21 March 2017, he was the secretary of the parliamentary Liberal Party. From 25 March 2017 to 19 April 2021, he was the shadow minister for child protection and shadow minister for the prevention of family and domestic violence." -> "In March 2017 he obtained three roles: the secretary of the parliamentary Liberal Party, shadow minister for child protection, and shadow minister for the prevention of family and domestic violence."
 * Done.
 * "From 19 April 2021 to present, Goiran has been the shadow minister to the attorney general, shadow minister for child protection, and shadow minister for industrial relations." Delete "to present" per MOS:CURRENT.
 * Done.
 * "In May 2021, before the new Legislative Council was sworn in, Goiran introduced a motion for the establishment of a select committee into the transparency and accountability of government. The committee was to be composed mostly of non-Labor MLCs, and have a member of the opposition as its chair." -> "In May 2021, before the new Legislative Council was sworn in, Goiran introduced a motion to establish a select committee into the transparency and accountability of government."
 * Done.
 * "The Uniform Legislation Committee was now chaired by Liberal MLC Donna Faragher." This statement is off-topic for Goiran's biography and will suffer from MOS:CURRENT. I recommend that it be removed.
 * Done.
 * "alongside Collier, Cormann, federal Liberal MP Ian Goodenough and other Liberal Party members." I don't think it is necessary for the reader to know who some of the other members are, and it would be too much information to list every member. Therefore, I think this can be deleted.
 * I've removed Goodenough because he wasn't that important, but the other two have been left in. Goiran, Cormann and Collier are basically the "leaders" of the Clan so I think they should be mentioned.
 * "a WhatsApp group who called themselves "The Clan" -> "a WhatsApp group called "The Clan"" -> To tighten up the language.
 * Done.
 * "Leaked messages show that the group was used to discuss branch stacking and the preselection of candidates." -> "Leaked messages show that the group discussed branch stacking and the preselection of candidates."
 * Done.
 * "The Liberal Reform Coalition called for Goiran and Collier's resignation from the party at the group's inaugural meeting in December 2021. The group was formed by former state Liberal Party leader Bill Hassell and former state party president Norman Moore in order to improve the image of the party." -> The Liberal Reform Coalition, a group formed to improve the public image of the party, called for Goiran and Collier's resignation from the party at the group's inaugural meeting in December 2021." to tighten up the language.
 * Done.
 * "Among the group's 60 members is former Liberal Premier Richard Court, former state Liberal leader Barry MacKinnon, former senator and defence minister David Johnston and former Legislative Council president Barry House." This is off-topic for Goiran's biography and can be deleted (and perhaps added to an article about the group)
 * Done.
 * "Goiran followed up by threatening legal action against the Liberal Party's state director and the authors of the report," -> "Goiran threatened legal action against the Liberal Party's state director and the authors of the report," to tighten up the language
 * Done.
 * "In February 2016, Goiran replaced Simon O'Brien as the top candidate on the Liberal's South Metropolitan Region ticket for the 2017 election." This paragraph can be merged with the previous paragraph to avoid a one-sentence paragraph
 * Done.
 * The "Political views" section seems to be organised chronologically, so it is difficult for the reader to determine what Goiran's political views are on specific topics and creates one-sentence paragraphs (which is discouraged by MOS:PARA. Instead, I think this section should be organised by theme, with a paragraph for each major theme (and maybe delete or merge shorter sections to avoid one-sentence paragraphs).
 * I've done some rearranging.
 * For "Political views" has anyone commented on his alignment on the political spectrum? (Social conservative, fiscal conservative, political labels used in Australia, etc.?)
 * He's typically described as simply "conservative". He doesn't really speak out on economic issues.
 * Are there any public images of Goiran available to be added to the article? Perhaps something released by the Western Australian government?
 * Well you've caused me to find this YouTube video, and so now we have an image.

Since there might be some movement on the sources in the political views section, I will do a source check after the above is addressed. Please ping me if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 20:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I've addressed all your points. Steelkamp (talk) 06:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Additional comments:


 * "Goiran, alongside fellow MLC" -What's an MLC? This should be clarified in the lede.
 * "In an addendum to a Liberal Party report published in August 2021 which reviewed the party's 2021 election loss," I do not think "published in August 2021" is necessary here, as readers will know what the report is about (the 2021 election loss) and thus the timing of the report is not important, and it will make the sentence flow more nicely.


 * Source check
 * No concerns about plagiarism with earwig.
 * No concerns about source formatting
 * Spotcheck version checked:
 * Refs checked: 3, 15, 21, 28, 31, 32, 33, 35. No concerns


 * Image check
 * Image is properly licensed.
 * Caption is informative.

Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 21:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * That should be everything done now. Steelkamp (talk) 03:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
 * My concerns have been addressed. I can now promote. Congratulations. Z1720 (talk) 01:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)