Talk:Nick Solak

Infobox: "US" or no "US"?
I have reverted your addition of “US” at the Nick Solak page. Thank you. NotReallySoroka (talk) 02:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * NotReallySoroka, what is your rationale for that revert? See discussion here. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:11, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Few baseball articles use “US” in the infobox. Moreover, your link discussion is only your own comment, when the conclusion did not mention the pertinent issue (“US” in infoboxes). NotReallySoroka (talk) 02:14, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * NotReallySoroka, it's not only my own comment - there are several users who agree on the appropriate format. See also WP:OTHERCONTENT. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:16, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not creating Articles for deletion/Nick Solak, so I fail to see why WP:OTHERCONTENT matters. Conversely, don’t you think it is good to have a unified format for related article? NotReallySoroka (talk) 02:18, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * NotReallySoroka, I don't see a reason to vary between types of biographies, and I'm also not sure what deletion has to do with the link I provided - perhaps you're thinking of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:20, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have retracted the pertinent part of my statement. NotReallySoroka (talk) 02:21, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. Please also revert your revert. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I have undone your revert. Although you had linked to our discussion here, you have misrepresented my words; I never explicitly retracted everything, only the "I am not… matters" part. Thanks. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi NotReallySoroka, do you have a rationale for your revert other than OTHERCONTENT? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:01, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it would be the best if we were to move this conversation to Talk:Nick Solak and request a third opinion on this issue. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:03, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * By all means post your rationale there and we can discuss further. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:04, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I have moved the conversation, and I will soon request a third opinion. I re-iterate that my rationale to revert your move is to bring the Solak page in line with other baseball biographies. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * As per the discussion I linked above, biographies - including sports biographies - should include country of birth in birthplace. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:15, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * The discussion's closing statement ("Upon reviewing this discussion… as is the standard format for .") says nothing about whether to "include country of birth in birthplace" - it only says which parameter of a infobox should be used. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If you read the discussion, several commenters note that the guideline encompasses this provision. Similarly WP:AUDIENCE notes that we write for an international audience - we shouldn't assume people know where the birthplace is if we don't say it. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:28, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, someone in the same discussion argued that "If country is REQUIRED per a guideline (which is how many are editing pages) then the guideline should be explicit about that." NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I requested a third opinion. NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Answering request for third opinion. While a survey of GA/FA biographical articles on notable people suggests that including the country of birth is the norm, GA/FA articles for sports figures–specifically sports figures only notable in the sport of a single nation–decline using the country of birth if it is concurrent with the country in which they are notable. As such, "US" seems to go against norms in this corner of Wikipedia. Unless universal standards for infoboxes are introduced, I think dropping the country of birth in single-nation sports figures should be considered the standard. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)