Talk:Nicky Spence

Copyright problem removed
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.resonusclassics.com/nicky-spence and http://www.nickyspence.com/biography/. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Voceditenore (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC) Voceditenore (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: Editors are encouraged to expand this article in your own words, with a neutral point of view (no PR hype) and inline citations to reliable published sources that are independent of the subject for the various claims made. Even if it hadn't been a copyright infringement, the kind of promotional language, cherry-picked quotes, and puffery that was removed actually does a disservice to the article's subject. Voceditenore (talk) 19:12, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

2019 clean up
I have extensively copy-edited this article to remove PR-Hype, copyvio, and unsupported assertions and to conform to Manual of Style. I have also added multiple references which at the moment are bare URLs, but I will properly format them tomorrow. I have removed the section entitled "Roles (Full list)". Not only was it entirely unsupported by independent sources, the inclusion of extremely small roles, student productions, etc. is entirely inappropriate. A list like that belongs on the subject's website not here. Editors with a conflict of interest, especially those connected to the subject, please read the notice at the top of this page and follow the guidelines linked there scrupulously. Voceditenore (talk) 16:29, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://www.samling.org.uk/artists/nicky-spence/. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.)

For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and, if allowed under fair use, may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, providing it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore, such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Voceditenore (talk) 07:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
At least one major contributor to this article appears to have a close personal or professional connection to the topic, and thus to have a conflict of interest. Conflict-of-interest editors are strongly discouraged from editing the article directly, but are always welcome to propose changes on the talk page (i.e., here). You can attract the attention of other editors by putting request edit (exactly so, with the curly parentheses) at the beginning of your request. Requests that are unduly long, or are not supported by independent reliable sources, are unlikely to be accepted.

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 * Although the article is now fairly neutrally written, I am inclined to leave the COI maintenance tag there until the COI editor (and associated IPs) stop disrupting this article with repeated attempts to add promotional and copyvio hype pasted from Spence's official biographies and repeated removal of the maintenance tags. At no point has this editor engaged either here or on his talk page. Also, while the style and tone are now reasonably neutral, there are still several unreferenced claims (albeit not major ones) which need to be verified. Voceditenore (talk) 18:21, 2 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I've now referenced this article to within an inch of its life and made further copy edits to remove PR-ish claims and somewhat excessive name-dropping. I've removed the COI tag, as it no longer applies to the current state of the article. Ditto BLP sources. Voceditenore (talk) 17:24, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

About the discography
The previous version of the discography had been literally pasted in directly from Spence's page at Askonas Holt Artist Management and completely devoid of formatting. I am gradually restoring it (two entries so far), properly formatted and each entry with a reference that explicitly describes Spence's performance on the recording. Note that while the Frances-Hoad: Magic Lantern Tales recording has multiple singers listed in the credits, the centrepiece of the recording and its raison d'être are the song cycle Magic Lantern Tales I–V in which Spence is the sole singer. I also disagree, and so would most editors at WikiProject Opera, that a singer's name must appear on the front cover of the recording for that recording to a significant part of their discography. Voceditenore (talk) 18:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)