Talk:Nicolas Anelka

Islam
Anelka recently converted to Islam, and has chosen the muslim name "Bilal". 86.10.95.103

says whom? Also show your name please Cokehabit 11:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I was surprised, too, but apparently it is true - do a Google on "Nicolas Anelka" +Islam and it will pull up a number of news reports from 2004. -- Arwel (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

His muslim name is Bilal, but why are you moving the talk page? His name is still NICOLAS ANELKA


 * I have removed the name "Abdul-Salam Bilal" from the page, as a google search for Anelka Abdul-Salam Bilal mainly lists Wikipedia mirrors, and includes no notable sources. Please provide a source for the name if/when it is re-instated. Poulsen 20:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Found this source (The Independent) and have re-inserted. Wikipidian 18:28, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Curses
Hi As a Fenerbahçe fan,I saw a nameless user changed Anelka's nickname with a Turkish slang word.Anelka made some decisions about leaving the team,so this page can be attacked by hooligans and vandals.I changed it. Best regards--King bugsy 08:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I am also a fanatic Fenerbahce fan and I didn't hear a nickname like the "Silent King" for Anelka. Also Anelka wasn't that much unsuccessful. Actually he is just one of the victims of the Turkish media. Anelka played in 58 matches, scored 16 goals and also performed 16 asists for the team. With respect, Deliogul 21:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I think King bugsy is talking about this .Nickname doesn't matter anymore here in Turkey as he decided to move to BW.--Bugtrio | Talk 07:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Return to Arsenal FC
I've removed the paragraph that was contested by NumberAte. I've done some research and I found a few sources that make claims similar to that that was in the article. The Orlando Sentinel sports producer Brant Parsons and tribalfootball.com both report that DiarioSport reports that Nicolas Anelka may return to Arsenal FC. The top Google search result for DiarioSport is www.sport.es which has this story which does seem to say that he might play for Arsenal. I must say, though, I don't know if sport.es qualifies as a reliable source. Any help would be appreciated.  W ODU P  09:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

World Cup 1998
The Anelka article states that he was part of the French squad that played in the 1998 World Cup. This is false. He wasn't selected by then-manager Jacquet. He selected instead Christophe Dugarry, and that caused some controversy in France. Maybe you can see there http://www.fff.fr/servfff/historique/historique.php?cherche_joueur=anelka that he wasn't part of the squad. It is from the French Federation. Or there http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/edition=1013/teams/team=43946.html, taken from the official FIFA website.

Chelsea
Already a deal in place to sign for Chelsea. CorleoneSerpicoMontana (talk) 22:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Things not to add to article?
Things not to add to article?:

1. 'Abdul-Salam Bilal', his Islamic name. In the public domain he is known as Nicolas Anelka - why do you think he still wears 'Anelka' on his shirt when playing for Chelsea? His Islamic name is mentioned in the 'Family background' section, I do not see a reason why it needs to be included again, or why his "original" name needs to be replaced entirely. So we don't get into a revert-war over this, please discuss if there are any objections.

2. Also double-check when you add goals/appearances to the table on the left-hand side. That table is for LEAGUE goals and appearances - NOT for FA Cup, or other Cup goals and appearances. Pullshapes (talk) 16:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

When I saw that muslim name I thought "why is that in there". Then I came to the section and immediately found something with the same views. Im gonna delete it.

66.229.116.120 (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Eritrean parents?
Anelka's parents are by no means Eritrean but French. Their first names are Marguerite and Jean-Philippe and they are from Martinique Island, a french overseas territory in the Carribeans.Mitch1981 (talk) 21:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Nickname
Isn't he also nicknamed the Incredible Sulk. I know the article has him as being nicknamed 'Le Sulk', but after all he is playing in the English Premiership, so shouln't his English nickname also be added? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/profile?id=10862 (Namzie11 (talk) 04:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC))

First-choice?
He also scored in the 2–0 victory against Ukraine on 2 June 2007, and is now one of Raymond Domenech's first-choice strikers, forming France's number one attacking partnership with Thierry Henry.

He was dropped from the starting line-up for France's Euro 2008 game against Netherlands, and he hasn't scored for France since October 2007. Is he still "first-choice" and part of the "number one attacking partnership"? Estesark (talk) 00:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

"most expensive player in premier league history"
I've changed "expensive" to "paid-for", though this sounds somewhat inelegant. The record comes from the fact his total transfer fees (in many transfers) come to more than any other player, but other players do have higher value.

Suppose I buy a car for £10k, we can say it's worth £10k. If I sell it on for £5k, it's absurd to say it's more expensive (£15k) than before. By this logic, avoid the term "expensive" Thanks MickO&#39;Bants (talk) 13:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

It's aggregate therefore you add it up no matter what the differnce in money or the condition of the subject, its not average —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.138.183 (talk) 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Rewriting the Past and Future
Nicolas Anelka was not born in Glasgow, Scotland and his list of Senior Clubs appears to be both incorrect and prophetic at the moment.

1987-1990 Blackburn Rovers 1990–1997 Manchester United 1997–2001 Real Madrid 2001–2004 Internazionale 2004–2008 Manchester United 2008–2010 Celtic 2010–2012 Tottenham Hotspur

Nevertobetold (talk) 10:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)neverotbetold

category:French Muslims
Hi, I added this category to the article depending on the fact that the article satisfies the 2 criteria mentioned in WP:BLP but till now, 2 users reverted my edits. The criteria are: These sources   show clearly that Anelka is a muslim and the article satisfies the criteria. So, why do you revert my edits guys??! --Osm agha (talk) 22:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) The subject publicly self-identifies with the belief or orientation in question;
 * 2) The subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to the subject's notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources.


 * Read over the second line, The subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to the subject's notable activities.  Ban  Ray  09:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * In the third reference Anelka says: I'm a practising Muslim, I pray five times a day. Before dawn, in the afternoon, mid-afternoon, sunset and then before I go to bed, I've got a prayer mat. The manager wouldn't have a problem with that, either. These quotes shows that Anelka prays in the same way that muslims do. Therefore, the second criteria is fullfilled here. --Osm agha (talk) 20:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note Osm, the quote above only shows that Anelka publicly identifies himself as a practicing Muslim, not that his religious beliefs are relevant to his "notable activities" (i.e. football). Ban  Ray  23:43, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for explaining your point of view. I misunderstood the second criteria but I got it now and I got the idea from it. I won't add the category anymore. Regards --Osm agha (talk) 00:02, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Total goals
I've just noticed that Anelka has 123 goals listed on this page. On the official Premier League page, he has 122. Don't know where the difference is or why. I'd suggest this page should be changed to match the league's official stats. Brad78 (talk) 18:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't he have 1/1 goals instead of 2/2 for Shanghai Shenhua	as it says the "Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only and correct as of 16 March 2012." His first goal came in a pre-season friendly while his first LEAGUE goal came on 16 March. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.9.86 (talk) 17:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Wrong translation
"Va te faire enculer, ..." - is not translated correctly, it literally says "Go get assf*cked, ...". The more idiomatic "Go f*ck yourself, ..." is really not strong enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.84.125.50 (talk) 20:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Manchester City
Why is there no mention of his Man City stint from 2002-2005? In the club career section it goes from his loan at Liverpool directly to his sale from Man City to Fenerbahçe failing to mention his switch from Paris-Saint Germain to Man City. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.160.145.23 (talk) 12:24, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Controversy
There needs to be a whole section on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.28.67.184 (talk) 08:06, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

"described by Jewish groups in France as an inverted Nazi salute"
User:Dubmill edited made the above edit claiming "This new rewording exactly mirrors what is said in the sourced article". This appear to be a lie as the source states "Jewish groups had complained to French president Francois Hollande about Dieudonne's trademark gesture, which they described as a "Nazi salute in reverse"." http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25537686 The source says "Jewish groups", not "Jewish groups in France." I don't have good faith that this was an inadvertent error because User:Dubmill previously added the word "some" claiming it was in the source, but it was not.

Regardless, the cited article in the second paragraph states unequivocally that the gesture is "described as an inverted Nazi salute." The fact that Jewish group also think so does not minimize the fact that it is described unequivocally as a revere Nazi salute. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 18:08, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The statement in the first paragraph is an introductory one. The lengthier statement, which you quote above, explains WHO is describing the gesture as "a Nazi salute in reverse". I'll admit that the "Jewish groups" mentioned are not identified as being located in France. I incorrectly assumed that must be the case because their complaints were addressed to the French president. I'll edit the text to that effect, so as to ensure the wording reflects what is stated in the source. Dubmill (talk) 18:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

League Medal Qualification
How does he qualify for an Italian league medal? He only played 2 games for Juventus. Perfectamundo (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Quenelle in lead
The paragraph of the description of the quenelle in the lead seems a bit recentist, seeing as there is about two sentences on it in the chronology of his career. Hardly anybody knew of Dieudonné never mind of his relationship with Anelka before the controversy, and it seems like just another small chapter in the career of a player who has put his foot in his mouth several times. The Almightey Drill (talk) 18:09, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

West Brom player?
Anelka has tweeted saying he has terminated his contract, but West Brom say there has been no formal communication of this. In my opinion, he's still at the club, until it becomes official, but my original revert on this was changed back, seemingly unaware I had reverted. Here's the Albion statement: 97rob (talk) 20:27, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Anelka Vs. WBAFC.
I added WBA FC's official response to NA's social media outburst into the WBA period of his career, by 28th March 2014 he will not be an employee of WBAFC. For Anelka to have terminated his contract, he had to notify the club directly, not through a third party such as social media, as he went public with his discord over the club's seemingly reasonable requirements for him to resume training, the club officially tendered their 14-day notice of termination of the contract of employment with him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pteronaut (talk • contribs) 00:31, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

This sentence makes no sense
"After failing to appeal as well as the FA and West Brom Anelka left the club by announcing that he was terminating his contract via social media"

I can't even see what it's supposed to mean. West Brom would have the right to appeal in his favour, but the FA can't appeal to themselves. Unless it's supposed to mean "Anelka didn't appeal at the same standard as the FA and West Brom", which is irrelevant. Can somebody make head or tails of this? &#39;&#39;&#39;tAD&#39;&#39;&#39; (talk) 13:44, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

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