Talk:Nifty Corporation

remote host
I think remote host is not nesessary because no such information is not written on other ISP's article except Appletrees started. It is strange. --Mochi (talk) 15:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You keep ignoring the talk page guideline, and rebuking me with your POV. See this!. You're really out of line with your stalking.

ja:@nifty

@nifty（アット・ニフティ）は、ニフティ株式会社が運営するインターネットサービスプロバイダである. ウェブ検索はgoogleを使用. ニュース、株価、旅行、音楽、映画その他の情報サービスも提供している.

ニフティ株式会社のニフティサーブ及び富士通株式会社のInfowebが統合され、1999年に開始された. プロバイダの経路はInfoWebのサービスを引き継いでいるため、ニフティのリモートホストはinfoweb.ne.jpであり、Infowebの名残を残す.

--Appletrees (talk) 16:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Is that an important information? Please explain. I don't think so. No other ISP articles in English wikipedia have such information. I wrote about InfoWeb, and that is enough.--Mochi (talk) 16:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter whether the remote name is that important to you or not. "Other articles don't, so I insist on taking out it" doesn't be any enough reason. And you changed that any ISP articles don't have that convention which is false. --Appletrees (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * If you want to insert "remote name" or "domain name" to Korean ISP or any other related articles, feel free to add it. You just want to object to my edit without good reasoning, you're just pushing your POV. --Appletrees (talk) 16:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Why are you willing to write remote host? "Japanese wikipedia articles do, so I think it should in English Wikipedia" doesn't be any enough reason.--Mochi (talk) 16:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * First of all, let me ask you about why you lied about the convention? --Appletrees (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't understand what you are calling "lie". Please tell me.--Mochi (talk) 16:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't pretend you already forgot about your "edit summaries". --Appletrees (talk) 16:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

"remove remote host infomation. Such info is not common in ISP's article." It is true, I think. If you think it is a wrong information, you can point out with evidences. I checked several ISP's article such as AOL, MSN, CompuServe, ... They have no remote host information. In addition, the word "lie" is too offensive. Please choose your words carefully.--Mochi (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Did I keep saying that I referred the information from Japanese wikipedia? You asserted that mentioning remote name is not conventional, but I've seen most of Japanese articles mention it. Did you falsely accuse that I frequently write wrong information? I used it because you framed me of doing so. Your behavior is just insulting to me and very offensive. Before saying that I am "frequently" "wrong", you must look yourself first. As for offensiveness, you first did as wikistalking me. --Appletrees (talk) 16:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I understand what you mean. I checked Japanese wikipedia. Remote host itself is mentioned at biglobe and @nifty. At au one net, a topic about remote host is mentioned. They are mentioned with their history. Probably, the editor thought they were useful. You extracted just remote host, that is strange. Such info is not common in ISP's article. You should see other articles in English wikipedia.--Mochi (talk) 17:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

In Korea (not Korean articles), the term, remote name is generally not used unless translating IP news from Japanese sites. I thought that the remote name is only Japanese adapted name for domain name or host name. Korean or American ISPs have same domain name as their company name, but the Japanese ISPs have very different name. I think that is unique feature of Japanese ISP. As I repeatedly say I don't know much about IP terms, so I can't translate the history of merging and subsidiaries of the companies. The remote names are repeatedly mention in the articles. --Appletrees (talk) 17:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Biglobe, @nifty, and au one net(formerly known as dion) absorbed other providers, that's why there are several remote hosts, and mentioned in Japanese wikipedia. Most ISPs use only one remote host.--Mochi (talk) 17:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

absorb?
I'm also ignorant of economic terms but NIFTY absorbed Fujitsu sounds weird. I think in case of M & A (Mergers And Acquisitions), "the merger", NIFTY acquire seems a right usage. --Appletrees (talk) 17:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * In my dictionay, the word "absorb" can be used about company. If strange, please fix it. The point is that InfoWeb became a part of Nifty, not vice versa.--Mochi (talk) 17:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)