Talk:Night service (public transport)

Night bus service by country?
What is this? There is no explanation. I think, these cities have night buses, but for example for Germany this is not even half of the cities with night buses... how where these chosen? This doesn't really make sense... --APPER 17:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

List of night services
I boldly restored the list. The list was a long-standing item in this article so it seemed strange to me that it was deleted without seeking consensus first. Astronaut (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Its absence was equally long-standing, so I would say time is an irrelevance. If you want to demonstrate consensus for it to be here, I suggest WP:3O. MickMacNee (talk) 16:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't really see why the list was removed. It is no less encylopedic than, say, list of bus routes in London. Perhaps a new list of night bus services article could be created, but embedding the list on the Night bus service page would be my preference.  Jo h n wa lt on   15:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, despite the fact that 'article x exists so why not article y?' is the worst argument to ever use on the pedia, the list of london routes is at least verifiable and does not randomly change, even if it is not encyclopoedic, however you intend to define that in terms of a list of places with night bus services. This list was frankly neither verifiable or encyclopoedic in the normal sense of the word, and does not belong. MickMacNee (talk) 15:57, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * My reasons for restoring the list was based in the interest shown on the reference desk. Even so, I can see no good reason for deleting the list or declaring it unencyclopedic.  Admittedly, verifiability could be a problem, but most city transport networks do run websites listing timetables and service routes.  If I can find the time (unlikely in my present situation), I'll find some links to verify the list.  Astronaut (talk) 18:22, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Even if you added it with full referencing, as soon as 1 day/week passes, it will cease to be of any use to that type of ref desk question, or anybody else, because if they are actually looking for an accurate full list they would have to check every single reference was still valid and represented an actual still running service, and even so, that would still miss all the places that start a service between the time of last referencing and him coming to find out. Wikipedia is frankly not the place to come and find this type of compiled information, and the fact that nobody has ever compiled it fully in a third party reference, which the questioner seems to recognise is the case, should be a massive clue that it is of no interest to anybody, let alone to an encyclopoedia. If he was just after a vague figure, then I doubt anyone has even bothered to report that either. Given the answers in the refdesk as well, as is usual, we would end up with a totally accurate list for america and other western countries down to single route numbers bizarrly, yet if he actually wanted an answer to his actual question, "around the world", he would be out of luck. Seriously, look at the version with a list, if you don't think that is utterly useless as a credible resource for an answer to his question, then I am not sure how you actually use an encyclopoedia. MickMacNee (talk) 18:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * But surely the issue of changeability of information listed applies equally to many other articles. The buses in London list is outdated with every service revision by Transport for London, it does not mean that the list is not included on Wikipedia. Also, airport articles have lists of destinations served, these destinations are sometimes referenced but by no means are they always kept up-to-date. I don't see how this is any different to what is proposed in this article. I agree that down to the level of listing service numbers is probably not ideal, but I think a list of cities with Night bus services, along with the date(s) these services started operating would be encyclopedic and would add something to the article.  Jo h n wa lt on   20:05, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tfl does not randomly revise its services at the level they are recorded here, they are very rigidly controlled and contracted for fixed, known terms and tranches, and editors know when it needs updating. Airport destinations, and the whole area of airports/airlines in general, are just so high profile that they get updated reasonably quickly here. None of that is in anyway comparable to attempting to list, for the entire world, all the places that have night bus services. If you think this task is even possible, go for it. I have no clue how you would intend to comile it, maintain it, or know when places needed adding to it. In that context, imho, it would be an absolutely lie to say to any reader who didn't know any better, that any version of this list was in any way complete, comprehensive, accurate, or up to date, not even marginally. That is the definition of unencyclopoedic content. MickMacNee (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

The old list was just mentioning cities with a night service which is surely of no real value since it might cover all cities with a larger public transport service. However there seem to be a number of separate articles in Wikipedia that are very specific about the service - as there is no category and not index list one can only find them by searching with some clever keywords. I'd say that these should be referenced in the article completely (until they are numerous enough to push them into its own "list of" article). Guidod (talk) 14:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

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Error about Kuala Lumpur
In Kuala Lumpur there aren't late night service trains!! To eliminate it, please.

List is very incomplete
I cannot speak for the rest of the world, but I know that there are a lot more bus systems in the United States that run 24 hours. Please expand the list if you know of a system that runs 24 hours. I already added Portland, Seattle, and New Orleans. Rckania (talk) 13:12, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

The true night service
In my opinion is NECESSARY to add to our list ONLY the cities and their subways, buses etc that have AT LEAST one departure every hour from 12AM to 4AM, seven days a week! It isn't a night service a bus route that has one only departure at 1AM or 2 departures at 1AM and 3AM. Forza NYCFC !! (talk) 18:59, 8 July 2022 (UTC)