Talk:Niobrara, Nebraska

Melbourne-Evans collision at Sea (1969)
A memorial to the collision is located in Niobrara, Nebraska.[6] The memorial specifically commemorates the three Sage brothers, all of whom were aboard Evans and were killed in the collision.[6] They were the first group of siblings permitted to serve on the same ship since World War II, a result of the policy introduced when the five Sullivan brothers were killed following the sinking of USS Juneau. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.158.54 (talk) 21:55, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Three brothers from Nebraska named Sage and a Chief lost his son, O'Riley. 72.161.170.244 (talk) 04:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)A. Mulitsch MMFN, Crew member and survivor of the USS Frank E. Evans (DD-754) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.158.54 (talk)

Omaha pronunciation
These seem dubious. I rather doubt it has those two el sounds, or that the [b] is stressed. Do we have a ref? William Bright (2007) Native American placenames of the United States may have s.t., but I can't access that page. kwami (talk) 20:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

The pronunciation of Niobrara in Ponca is given in three places in Dorsey (1890):

Dorsey, J. O. (1890). The egiha language, the speech of the Omaha and Ponka tribes of the Siouan linguistic family of North America Indians. Contributions to North American Ethnology. Washington, D. C., U.S. Government. 6, pp. 374, 379, 405.

On all three pages the word is accented on the first and third syllables. In IPA, accent marks come before the accented syllable. Thus, it is not that "the [b] is stressed", but the syllable [ða] following it. Or we could put the stress mark before the [b], depending on where we think the syllable break is.

I am a linguist who has worked with Omaha and Ponca texts and speakers for years. In fact, Ponca does not have an [l] in the same way as English; it has a velarised lateral with interdental-approximant release, which in IPA we could render [ɫ͡ð], but it's probably simpler to call it [l]. The page has been editied to render the sound [ð]. This is reasonably accurate given IPA's failure to reflect this odd sound. For references including Omaha and Ponca phonology, see the following:

Boas, F. (1906). Notes on the Ponka grammar. International Congress of Americanists 15, Quebec, Dussault & Proulx.

Dorsey, J. O. (1890). The egiha language, the speech of the Omaha and Ponka tribes of the Siouan linguistic family of North America Indians. Contributions to North American Ethnology. Washington, D. C., U.S. Government. 6.

Eschenberg-Bad Moccasin, Ardis (2005) The article system of Umoⁿhoⁿ. (SUNY Buffalo dissertation)

Hahn, F. (n.d.). The Ponca language. anonymous typescript in the Gordon H. Marsh Collection in the American Philosophical Society Library, Philadelphia. balshan (talk) 10:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It would be great if you could expand the Ponca article to reflect some of this. I frequently am unable to tell if the language is phonetically exotic, of if the editor was just ignorant about the IPA. I had assumed the els in were errors for stress marks, which is what they obviously are when I come across them in Spanish or German. I restored the pron., but changed  to, which better captures your description. kwami (talk) 11:41, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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Niobrara Shale-Field ?
Hi,

I first thought it is a "play" with the names of the 4 states in which the huge (top 4 to my source, not the best, but at least data, no metric data but well... I'm used to the (for me^^) stupid non-metric cubic foot or inch system^^ But it seems like the name comes from here? Would be maybe worth mentioning?!

The Field produces 287,000 barrels of oil per day and an additional 4.6 billion cubic feet of Natural Gas a day. Especially the Oil (around 45,630,000 liters of oil per day or absolutely correct with 6 digits after the last full unit if you understand what I try to say^^ So we have than 120,540,003.84 gallons of oil per day. The extension program is quite aggresive. Greetings from Europe! Kilon22 (talk) 23:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)