Talk:No. 1 Elementary Flying Training School RAAF/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: AustralianRupert (talk · contribs) 11:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

G'day, I still have a couple of days before I go back to work, so I will review this article for GA. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * G'day, overall this is a good little article. Based on the unit's role (as a non combat unit) and short life span I'm pretty happy with the coverage, and it is certainly well referenced (using only reliable sources), and well written. I have the following comments by way of a review: AustralianRupert (talk) 11:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Technical check: alt text present, external links all work, there are no dabs, there are no duplicate links (no action required);
 * Copyright: No issues detected by Earwig. (no action required);
 * Images seem appropriately captioned and licenced (no action required);
 * Stability: seems fine.
 * "F.J.B. Wright" - do we know this man's full name? I had a look on the online World War 2 Nominal Roll and couldn't seem to find him.... Doesn't really matter if you can't find it, just curious...
 * Ah, I think I know the issue, now. This might be a spelling error. I've found "WIGHT, FREDRICK JAMES BYAM " (not Wright): . In the list of COs you added later, you use "Wight". Can you please confirm which is correct and adjust one as required? AustralianRupert (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the first mention is my typo as I cut/pasted the list of COs from the Units PDF. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:50, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This seems to indicate Wright was promoted to wing commander, perhaps you could work this in if you know who/if he was replaced on promotion?
 * The official histories and Units of the RAAF always just seem to use initials. Re. promotion, the need might be obviated if we go with a list of COs per your later suggestion?
 * Yes, happy with that. AustralianRupert (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If this unit started as No 2 EFTS, why was it renamed? I assume there was a plan to raise a different No 1 EFTS elsewhere. Did this fall through? Do your sources mention this at all? If not, no worries, but it got me wondering.
 * Neither Gillison nor Units mentions why but I've always surmised that they just decided on a more discrete numbering/classification system for their flying schools after 2FTS (later 1EFTS) and 3FTS (later 2EFTS) had been formed (1FTS itself was renamed 1SFTS).
 * Ok, no worries. AustralianRupert (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "No. 1 EFTS relocated to Tamworth, New South Wales, during 17–28 May 1944..." do we know why? No worries if the sources don't say, but if we could find something it might help expand the article just a little. Probably wouldn't need more than half a sentence or so.
 * I only had newspaper articles for the reason so resisted but have used one of those with a "reportedly" hedge if that works for you.
 * Yes, that looks good to me. AustralianRupert (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "All flying training at No. 1 EFTS came to an end on 15 September..." do we know why? I assume that it was part of the general scaling down of the forces that occurred in the latter half of the war, after the government realized we'd over mobilized.
 * I expect that's the reason too as it was about that time and for that reason that 1SFTS (formerly 1FTS) was disbanded -- if I can find an explicit mention re. 1EFTS I'll certainly put it in.
 * If you know all of the unit's commanders, you might consider adding a list of commanders below the History section (not a requirement, just a suggestion);
 * Heh, I guess if I do it for this one then my sense of duty and standardisation will compel me to do it for all the wartime flying school articles but there's really no reason not to when we have the complete lists... ;-)
 * "in response to the commencement of Australia's participation in the Empire Air Training Scheme (EATS)..." Perhaps clarify that this greatly increased the demand for flight training in Australia? (You could probably just get away with adding a short clause at the end of that sentence). I seem to recall reading somewhere that the RAAF only trained about 50 odd pilots a year before the war. Can't recall where I read this, though, sorry. One imagines that EATS increased this many times over.
 * Fair enough, will work that in once I've double-checked that the currently cited sources mention that explicitly (obvious though it may be).
 * Anyway, that's it from me. Happy to discuss anything you don't agree with. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Tks for reviewing, Rupert! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:07, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries, just need clarification on the spelling of the CO's name, and then I will close the review. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * All good, passing now. Thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)