Talk:No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle

Wii game?
Was it officially announced as being a Wii game? The "Desperate Struggle" subtitle suggests it could also be for DS. HisshouBuraiKen (talk) 13:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Here(scroll down to the 3rd game) it states it is a Wii game. Rhonin the wizard (talk) 13:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * In March Suda 51 said that if he were given the okay on a No More Heroes sequel, it would be a Wii title like the first game. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 15:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Suda51 stated that with No more heroes 2, they have done all they can on wii, if they ever were to make a new No more heroes, it would have to be on nextGen consoles, and that No more heroes 2: DS is the end of the "Travis Arc".

the first game has been ported to ps3 and xb360 and released in April in Japan, No more heroes: Heroes' Paradise, with a new "Very Sweet" mode in which all the female characters are wearing less and the game would contain both Japanese and English voices. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.255.200.215 (talk) 16:09, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Travis takes over Santa Destroy?
The trailer shows the Santa Destroy flag with the face of Travis in the center while the buildings have large posters of Travis on their walls. He also sports a new 'baron' type jacket rather than his old sporty one. Also, the Desperate Struggle title art of Travis' face (used on the Wiki article) is stylized similar to that of the famous Che Guevara image. These seems like they would be worth mentioning in the trailer summary since they could be important hints to the plot. It just seems strange to omit them from the article.

To me, it looks like Travis has reached some position of power (ruler of Santa Destroy) after taking down the top Assassins, or maybe, after taking down the Assassins he decides to set his sites higher and take over Santa destroy. Either way, if the trailer is anything to go on, it looks like Travis is making a grab for power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.81.54 (talk) 21:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * We're not looking for speculative hints to the plot, Wikipedia articles rely on fact. The articles that don't are improperly written, and so far this article is looking good. Travis' head on a building in a trailer doesn't mean anything, and speculating that Travis decides to take over Santa Destroy for this reason alone is absurd. Yes, his likeness appearing on a building could possibly have to do with how the character has grown from an amateur fighting because of his sexual craving for a woman who put him in that position in the first place, to an assassin who sets out for revenge, but it could simply be used in the trailer to reflect this growth, and may not need to be taken so literally. There is nothing strange about omitting speculation from a Wikipedia article, when it comes from a trailer of a video game not scheduled for release until at least 15 months later, that in addition has absolutely no offered explanation. It's not notable. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 22:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


 * there's nothing speculative about it. I'm simply describing the setting the trailer takes place in, which is Santa Destroy decorated with posters of Travis. Mentioning that the video shows the SD flag with a picture of Travis on it and buildings with posters of Travis isn't speculative.

The second paragraph I posted was only my theory, but in the first I was simply describing the setting the trailer takes place in. It's not unusual for creators to drop hints in their early trailers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.81.54 (talk) 22:49, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Story Details
A few have emerged. The game takes place 3 years after the original and sees Travis embark on a mission of revenge after his best friend is killed. Suda51 is promising improvements on engine and graphics and a busier Santa Destroy with a dark tone to the story. Source here: http://gonintendo.com/?p=59104#more-59104 NinjaRooster (talk) 05:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * THEY KILLED JEANE(THE CAT)!!?!?!Vault9Dweller (talk) 19:50, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * His best friend in NMH was Bishop. It's unlikely that Travis is avenging Thunder Ryu (who's more of his mentor than a best friend), since he already avenged him by killing Speed Buster. The possibilities of who he's avenging, assuming the best friend is someone who appears in the first game, are left with either Bishop or Jeane (even for something close to him, the latter would still be a pretty lazy plot device IMO). Seeking revenge against Silvia would have made so much more sense. But whatever, this is getting off-topic lol. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 20:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Destroyman
Josh Keaton recently stated that he did more lines for Destroyman for the game. Should this be included in the article? Source here: http://gonintendo.com/?p=76207 And the original interview is here: http://news.toonzone.net/articles/28932/marvel-animation-age-amp-tz-news-present-josh-keaton-on-the-spectacular-spider-man 76.18.230.58 (talk) 04:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Bosses
No More Heroes wiki mentions that there will be over 50 bosses in No More Heroes: Desperate Struggle, and sites a Kotaku article as a source. Perhaps this should be included in the Wikipedia article, as 50+ bosses is a huge jump from the previous 11 or 12 bosses. 8bit (talk) 03:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

This is an assumption. Yes, Travis is ranked 51 at the beginning of the game. Yes, the first boss is ranked 50. But that does not mean that something huge isn't going to happen in the game that will throw the whole UAA in dissaray and mess everything up. Also, no one related to the game or any article about it has ever said that there will be 50 bosses. The No More Heroes Wiki is very good, but is rarely edited, and whoever made that edit is probably just assuming that there are 50 bosses. I'm going to wait for an official mention before putting anything of the sort in the article. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 18:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

A Little Update about the Specific Number of bosses: Goichi Suda said in an interview that they wil be MORE then 10 bosses, so i expect to see at least 15 bosses this time, maybe more.93.197.76.194 (talk) 11:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox for Reviews
Hey, can somebody compile review scores into a infobox like in other gaming articles? I would myself, but I don't know how.  Marlith  (Talk)   01:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

NMH3
I don't have a pinpointed source for this, but Grasshopper are definitely working on the next one already. Suda has said that the creative process involves "purging everything in our guts, like diarrhea," Ever the gentleman. I read this in issue 50 of NGamer. I know it's not much, but worth mentioning, right? SuperStickmanML About lunchtime, 12 June 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 12:43, 12 June 2010 (UTC).

Suda51 stated that with No more heroes 2, they have done all they can on wii, if they ever were to make a new No more heroes, it would have to be on nextGen consoles, and that No more heroes 2: DS is the end of the "Travis Arc". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.255.200.215 (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Mild European Version Canceled
I might be wrong here, but I think that they didn't actually release a milder version in Europe. Can't find any place that sells the game that tells you what version it is, but here's a notice of its cancellation: http://www.thatgamingsite.com/id188-Mild-Edition-of-No-More-Heroes-2-Cancelled-News.html Anyone knows any different or should the article be updated? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.25.249.31 (talk) 03:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

United Assassins Association?
Is it explained why the United Assassins Association is a big deal as in the previous game it was revealed to not exist as it was an elaborate con by Sylvia? The description of this game's plot seems to indicate the United Assassins Association actually exists in Travis world...which conflicts with what the previous game said.--216.31.124.56 (talk) 18:56, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

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