Talk:No Way Out (2008)

Cena-Orton WWE Title Match
It looked to me as if Orton slapped the ref instead of what was listed as a punch. Regardless, I think it was close enough to where I'd suggest a change, but I leave it up to the senior editors to decide. Scca8704 (talk) 03:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * how about u leave it to people who have seen the PPV.Baseball16 (talk) 03:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It could have been a open handed punch (which would look like a slap). I would leave it as is unless we had definitive proof that it was a slap.  TJ   Spyke   03:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't see it myself, so I have no idea which it is, but people need to stop changing it back and forth, it's getting annoying... MAKE UP YO MINDS!!! Or stop fighting over it and choose one. o.o WWE.com lists it as a slap. 3pointswish (talk) 03:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Look, I wouldn't have asked the question if someone was to come on here and criticize me and question what I saw. And Baseball16, how do you know that I didn't slam down the 40 bucks to see the PPV anyways? Exactly, you don't know. As a matter of fact, I bought the HD feed. Scca8704 (talk) 03:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Why not just list it as Orton "striking" the referee? Wouldn't that suffice? Hazardous Matt (talk) 04:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

look,i didn't mean to get any1 angry.Sorry Baseball16 (talk) 04:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey man, apology accepted. Next time, be careful as to who you address because some people might not be as nice as I am. But besides that, although a slap is a strike, listing it as a slap defines what type of strike Orton used on the ref.Scca8704 (talk) 04:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

It was a slap. Now I think the latest ruiling at WP:PW is that I have to prove I watched the PPV legally, which means I have to photograph my hand to show the PAID stamp which shows that I paid to watch the PPV at a bar. I'm sure commons will accept that. Mshake3 (talk) 04:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, that's not needed. The source I added (from wwe.com) says Orton slapped the referee.  TJ   Spyke   04:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's good. It saved me a lot of time and energy. Mshake3 (talk) 04:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Raw Chamber
Was hardy ever eliminated. It doesn't say he was. Baseball16 (talk) 04:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Just saw it. sorry Baseball16 (talk) 04:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hardy Swanton on Umaga
Jeff Hardy's swanton on Umaga was from the top of a pod, but that fact keeps getting deleted for some reason. This is pretty significant in that it distinguishes the move from a regular swanton, AND the Smackdown EC entry distinguishes Undertaker's choke slam on MVP as being from a pod. So listing the same for Hardy is consistent. There is no reason to leave this information off the Raw EC entry, and in fact provides a more accurate description of the match.Vader47000 (talk) 06:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Jeff Hardy's swanton from the top of the pod is not notable, and in fact, the chokeslam is not notable etheir, usually, the superstars that won the match (Which were Triple H, and The Undertaker.) that can be put in (Which it was already) because its notable.  N i m i  T i  z e 16:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I always scratch my head when someone on Wikipedia declares something not to be notable, as if there's some magical credential for determining so. The Hardy move is notable for the simple fact that technically, a swanton bomb is performed from the top turnbuckle, and performing the maneuver from a higher elevation is a variation of the move and thus should be noted. Same with the chokeslam.Vader47000 (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless he won, like that, its really not notable, I dont even think WWE mentioned that. But, in Jeff Hardy, article its notable ( As a finisher).  N i  m i  T i  z e 18:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * If the page is listing all the eliminations (as I believe it should) Jeff's Swanton SHOULD be included, because it was the move the led to the elimination of Umaga (albeit pinned by a different competitor).  !! Just a Punk !!  19:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * WWE also isn't in the habit of breaking kayfabe, yet that doesn't stop Wikipedia. So I don't see how narrowing the focus to the WWE slant of events is helpful. Every page that lists elimination matches, most notably the Royal Rumble, lists the order of entry and method of elimination. Part and parcel with someone winning a match is someone losing a match, and each elimination is a loss, so noting their method of loss is completely relevant. Vader47000 (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

HBK and Big Show Both Receive Broken Noses
Should it be noted that both Big Show and Shawn Michaels both receive broken noses with HBK receiving one from the main event and big show receiving one after taking several shots from Floyd Mayweather Jr. I've seen this on several sites with different sources but here is the only one I remembered http://nodq.com/wwe/205322254.shtmlUser:Jofra01 06:59, 18 Feburary 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.160.14.122 (talk) 09:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not checking nodq.com because the last time I did my adblocker when crazy and was blocking dozens of them and I had to run a virus scan. Somehow I doubt these rumor sites would know if the wrestlers broke their noses so quickly (an IP tried to add the same thing less than 5 minutes after HBK's match ended. If it actually happened, we will find out soon enough (if they broke their noses, they will have something on their noses on RAW).  TJ   Spyke   10:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Not only that - don't people with broken noses have a couple of shiners to go with it? Worth looking out for as well.  !! Just a Punk !!  19:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, they wear those strips on their nose. The same ones that MVP wears. I think. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Escape
I put in the notes that with the undertaker falling out the chamber it marked the first time in which a participant has left the chamber without being eliminated first. if its not needed just say and remove it. i just thought it was a slightly interesting factBlack6989 (talk) 12:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Black6989
 * I don't really think its notable to add in the article. But hey, other things have been added to other PPV's. So... --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's notable, so long as a source can be found for it being unplanned, as it clearly was NOT meant to happen. A ref actually helped Taker up and the look on his face was not "I'm a zombie with no soul" it was "That HURT!" And when he got up, it was not in his usual, "sit straight up" fashion. It was definately an accident, or a botch. So if a source can be found, I think it's notable. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * How 'bout this one? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

events and notes?
what happened to the notes section and why is their now a section basically commentating exactly what happened in each match at no way out? this isnt normal is it?Black6989 (talk) 23:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)Black6989
 * This is part of our PPV expansion project. Current and past PPV articles are being expanded as we can, to make them more than just match results. See December to Dismember (2006). Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As sports entertainment, WWE PPVs are by definition more than simply the presentation of a sporting event. Almost everything in the PPV, from the matches, to promos, to behind-the-stage antics and the commentary is designed to work together to create part of a storyline. Some of these events serve as plot points, not unlike a movie or TV show. If these details are included with movie and TV entries, there's no reason not to include them with WWE entries. Vader47000 (talk) 23:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

In other word your given us a other reason not to come to Wikipedia and making it boring Supermike (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, A. Wikipedia is not a social network. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Undertaker falling out of the Chamber
There is a point after Big Daddy V is let into the Chamber,that he headbutts The Undertaker and he falls onto the Chamber door which then gives way and he falls out of the Chamber.I would of put it in the article but I'm not sure exactly how and where to put it.So I thought to put it on here so a more experienced user can put it in there.--WillC (talk) 00:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It is not very notable as it did not impact the match whatsoever. I don't think it should be added. -G uf fa s  B or gz   7- 06:35, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Elimination Chamber Order of Entry
Someone pointed out to me that unlike the Royal Rumble, the Elimination Chamber doesn't seem to have a set entry pattern. In both the RR and EC, # 1 and #2 are pretty much the same. While the RR actually delineates these numbers as a technicality, the same doesn't seem to be said for the EC. The last two wrestlers to come to the ring are the starters, and the order they come out doesn't really mean anything, since the pods seem to be opened at random. On the surface, it seems more accurate to simply list the first two participants as "starters." Does the WWE actually list out numbers for its EC starters? Vader47000 (talk) 00:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

main event on undercard
i was going to put it in but thought id check first. should the smackdown chamber not be on the undercard main events?Black6989 (talk) 02:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)Black6989

Three Amigos
During the ECW championship match Punk does the three amigos (Triple rolling vertical suplexes) and gets booed because of it should i add it. ADAM Adster95 (talk) 13:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No you shouldn't. It is not notable if a wrestler gets booed during a match, or what do they do to be booed. ♥ Nici ♥ Vampire ♥ Heart ♥ 14:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Who is working on this article?
Is anyone working on this article? Like to take it to GA or something or is it orphaned.-- Will C  23:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to work on this, but seeing the article, it may take some time. If you wanna work on it, go for it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I was just wanting to know if anyone was working on it.-- Will C  23:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm going to work on this and try to bring it up to a GA. Cheers,  Dooms  Day  20:38, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

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