Talk:Noah Schnapp/Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2018
Noah Schnapp did not win the award for Best On-Screen Team for the MTV Awards (the IT cast did), but he was nominated for it. Justabouteverythingislife (talk) 14:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done, thanks! &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 14:41, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2019
His character Will Byers proceeded as a main character throughout season 3 of Stranger Things. 2605:A000:1006:634C:E8D0:2BF6:4CF5:C3CB (talk) 00:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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Noah Schnapp
he is in a new music video: “See You” by Johnny Orlando ( from 0:35 to 0:40 ) on youtube Martinadelhoyo (talk) 14:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2020
Noah's middle name is Cameron 69.126.193.48 (talk) 00:31, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Failed verification – Thjarkur (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Birthplace
He was born in Scarsdale, New York. Not in NYC. He said it himself and you can also google it Carolina0110 (talk) 16:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Nationality in intro
IMDb says born in US but IMDb is not a reliable source for bio info (and that includes the birthdate listed there). National Post reference says parents from Montreal but family is based in US. Headline in article says Schnapp is a Montrealer but that is not supported by what is in the article itself. All credits are American. Likely has rights to Canadian citizenship if he wants it and claims it as an adult but can't presume that he currently has it based on parents if he was actually born in the US (and IMDb thinks he was but we can't use that). Given nationality is unclear but all credits are American and that is where he is based, it is reasonable to say American actor. Not enough info to say he is a Canadian actor.Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:42, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Now we have sources for Canadian citizenship which is good but somewhat irrelevant to the lead. He is an American actor due to where he was born, raised, resides and has done all his notable activities. Canadian citizenship has no relevance to what he is notable for. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:51, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * His professional connection to Canada as an actor is non-existent as he has no credits for working in Canada or on any Canadian productions. He is an American actor, not solely because of his citizenship in the US, but because that is where he does his acting. If he'd had any notable activity in Canada as an actor, it would be appropriate to also classify him as a Canadian actor, but he hasn't. His dual nationality is mentioned prominently in the infobox and is covered in the body of the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:46, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree, his parents were born in Canada but are also American. The call him “Canadian” is not right Carolina0110 (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Business venture
Recently Noah Schnapp started up his own product "TBH" - this could be added to the "career" section of his page. MonkeyBusiness2468 (talk) 00:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Millie bobby brown
For part Noah's Early life and personal life,Millie bobby brown isn't trivia because thier platonic relationship has received media coverage and attention from both fans and reputable sources alike. Also both have been invited to interviews and talk shows to talk about thier relationship. Uricdivine (talk) 12:31, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

CHLOE SCHNAPP
Since social is a reliable source,for those who follow Noah on social media you all would know that he has a twin sister named Chloe. If you still need reliable source,take your time and enter Instagram or YouTube and go through Noah's pages Uricdivine (talk) 10:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

by better preferences do you mean citations?. Uricdivine (talk) 19:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Citations/references, yes. I don't think I misspelled it. Apologies for any confusion. --Hipal (talk) 20:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The issue is not whether we have reliable sources (and generally WP:SOCIALMEDIA is not considered a good source of information, and in this particular case it wouldn't meet point (2) as listed at the guideline) for the existence of his sister... the issue is that him having a sister is irrelevant to his entry. We list people's parents because we are essentially tracking their lineage but the existence of siblings, unless said siblings are notable is not relevant to a person's history, unless I don't know... she gave him a kidney or influenced his acting (which is what he's notable for) or they own a notable business together, etc. etc. At Wikipedia, we aren't WP:INDISCRIMINATE: that is, we don't include all the information we have about a subject just because that information exists and can be sourced. So again, I will be removing reference to his sister because him having a sister is not relevant to his entry here or to his career and the reasons he is notable enough to have an entry at Wikipedia. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * If there is a WP:RS for it, like the one I added, it's very reasonable to add that he has a sister (like I said below, I think we can skip names of parents). Basic family is encyclopedic, and it's not controversial. Making a WP:OTHERCONTENT argument, compare WP:GA James Gandolfini. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree that someone's family background is encyclopedic and should be included. Were they an only child? Did they have 10 older brothers? Someone's sibling situation informs their character and background. You'd be hard-pressed to find a feature-class biography on Wikipedia or in Britannia that doesn't mention the subject's siblings - sure not by name unless they're notable in themselves, but the number, age and gender of siblings are appropriate information. Pontificalibus 06:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Family
I added that he has a twinsister. However, per WP:BLPNAME I think we should remove names of parents. They are sourced, but there is no strong reason to include them. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with mentioning he has a twin sister (but not her name, see above). I also agree with it not being necessary to include the parents' names. What I think might be worth making clear is that his parents aren't from the TV/film industry, as that is relevant to a child actor's early career choice.Pontificalibus 06:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2022
Noah Schnapp Born Oct 3, 2002 Age 18 yrs old as of Oct 2022 49.145.136.136 (talk) 14:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @49.145.136.136 Sources place his year of birth at 2004. unless you have reliable source citing claim your edit may not be added. UricdivineTalkToMe 14:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:18, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Canadian citizenship?
Can you please explain why referencing his dual citizenship in the lead contravenes MOS:CONTEXTBIO? Thanks. -- Themightyquill (talk) 13:17, 12 August 2022 (UTC)


 * @Themightyquill The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory, where the person is a citizen, national, or permanent resident. Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable. does these answer your question?. UricdivineTalkToMe 13:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

To better explain. In MOS:CONTEXTBIO, it states that the opening paragraph should contain actives that made the person notable. Those activities include religion, nationality etc. Noah gained notable for being an American actor, in no source reliable or not is he mentioned as an American-canadian. Any other question amUricdivineTalkToMe 14:05, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I don't understand. Several reliable sources refer to him as Canadian-American, including ETCanada, and the BBC]. Are you suggesting the BBC is not reliable? - Themightyquill (talk) 11:29, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Are they using "Canadian-American" in a context that refers to dual citizenship, or one that refers to an American with Canadian heritage? —C.Fred (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you suggesting he doesn't have Canadian citizenship? Because that's already in this article including the infobox and referenced in many places - I don't think it's debated. Whether these articles were referring to his citizenship or his personal identity - how could I know? -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

"Several reliable sources" and you send just two. Neither of them is unreliable but according to MOS:CONTEXTBIO, only nationality that made them notable should be in lead section which is American. Uricdivine<b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#FF8C00">TalkToMe</b> 12:25, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

<b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#FF4500">Uricdivine</b><b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#FF8C00">TalkToMe</b> 12:26, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You said there were no sources, and then complained when I posted some? Neither of his nationalities made him notable, and he had both citizenships when he became notable. Sure, he gained notability in the United States, but so have many non-Americans and dual-citizens - that doesn't make their full citizenship non-notable enough to include in the lead. MOS:CONTEXTBIO is meant to discourage including details about his ethnic origin (like listing where each of his great grandparents emigrated from, or suggesting that, because his last name is Schnapp that he's German) not to discourage posting his actual citizenship which it specifically says should be included. -- Themightyquill (talk) 11:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Like you said "he gained notability in united states". And as MOS:CONTEXTBIO states "The opening paragraph should usually provide context for the activities that made the person notable In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory, where the person is a citizen, national, or permanent resident". <b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#FF4500">Uricdivine</b><b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#FF8C00">TalkToMe</b> 18:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

3O Response: My initial reaction was to not include Canadian citizenship in the lead sentence, as it was a rather small detail in a very small article (under 400 words). An article this small, you generally only want the lead to have what is essential to the subject's notability. None of the subject's notable works seem to be Canadian productions. On the other hand, there seems to be a neutrality issue in listing one citizenship but not another. Citizenship is clearly defined and sourced; arguments to include only the subject's Americanness may skew more toward nationality, and nationality debates have been fodder for many edit wars (see WP:LAME). Also, it seems a little silly to have both citizenships in the infobox but only "American" in the lead sentence. So for neutrality and article stability I'd tend to go with "an American-Canadian actor". This is a non-binding third opinion, but I hope it helps! – Reidgreg (talk) 16:30, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Please Update the main picture
It is outdated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.93.70.165 (talk) 23:52, 9 Jan 2023 (UTC)
 * The issue is finding a more up-to-date free image to use. —C.Fred (talk) 01:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2023
Change Queerty Awards nomination from "Pending" to "Won". Hyacinthuces (talk) 12:16, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.queerty.com/queerties/vote?category_id=2302 Hyacinthuces (talk) 17:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2023
Please change his current photo to something more recent. Perhaps from when he was at the Oscars. His current photo was from 2017. He is an adult now. StarCereal (talk) 22:52, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
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Ghost kitchen
This page is missing information about another business venture alongside TBH - he also launched TenderFix chicken on uber eats. MonkeyBusiness2468 (talk) 07:32, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Please update the picture
Noah Schnapp is turning 19 later this year and Wikipedia is still using an image from when he was 12/13. His appearance has changed significantly since 2017. It's long overdue.

Maybe use the imagine from the people's choice awards 2022. 86.131.76.251 (talk) 09:26, 14 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Updating the picture is dependent on having access to a picture with compatible license terms. Unless an image can be proven to be under a free license, it will not be added to the article.Who took the PCA image you are referring to? —C.Fred (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @C.Fred any image from the PCA under GETTYs watermark is license-free. 2A00:23C6:4B42:F301:D145:5266:82B:1E63 (talk) 13:06, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Link a couple of examples you like, perhaps? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:29, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That's a big switch for Getty. When did they start making their stuff free? —C.Fred (talk) 19:31, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Public debate is not personal life
the latest revert regarding the “Personal life” heading was made on the basis that “his opinions are part of his personal life unless he enters into the political sphere”. How is publicly voicing his support of Zionism and receiving public backlash not political? ~  Ivan Scrooge 98  ( talk ) 10:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)


 * IMO, "Personal life" fits well enough. The Israel-thing may have to much text per WP:PROPORTION atm, but at least it's not glaringly awful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:36, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * IMO, the "Public Image" section seems as a weird title and didn't fit both aspects listed under it, which is why I reverted it once, to only be "Personal life". As Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) mentioned the text fits well enough as it is now. Leaky.Solar (talk) 16:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
 * The neutrality of that whole section is questionable, to say the least… 75.169.17.131 (talk) 05:34, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2023
NOAH SCHNAPP— a zionist. 2600:1017:B838:37FE:1C1A:F980:5527:2D5F (talk) 05:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)