Talk:Nodachi

I really wish people would do more research before adding to this Encyclopedia rather than putting down what they read somewhere else.

The Bujinkan organisation also incorporates this long sword in its cirrculum.


 * Koden Enshin ryu is another school teaching nodachi techniques. temed

Gotta love the unabashed love for the nodachi that the article writer exhibits...--162.24.9.213 19:25, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I was of the understanding that nodachi were primarily used by cavalry against ground units, as opposed to the other way around as the article describes.
 * Not so. The nodachi was most definately used by ground units against cavalry. The edge of the nodachi was generally blunt, with only the tip being sharpened, so they were used more like a big club than a sword. The ground units would use them to break the legs of the horses or to knock a rider from his mount. Swords in general were not used from horseback - whether they be of the nodachi or regular size.--AngusH 23:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

"...therefore the nodachi can probably be considered to be the most powerful sword ever made if cutting capability is any measure of a sword's power. It has been said that a nodachi could cleave a warrior and his horse in a single blow."

What is this. Seriously. Somewhere the author got confused between nodachi, zanbato, and anime/fanboydom. This is getting edited.--SunWuKong 00:41, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Spelling?
I have often seen it written as "no-dachi" when romanized. How certain is it that "nodachi" is the appropriate form to use? Just curious. -Kasreyn 07:10, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I've seen it written both ways. I assume that both ways are correct, as well-- much like the fact that color/colour have different spellings. --Melissia 17:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Nodachi would be the literal translation from Japanese; the hyphen is to help English speakers pronounce it properly. Yes, indeed, somewhat similar to how Americans have taken to spelling colour. 137.111.90.68 05:26, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Merger?
The article The Drying Pole says such a sword is properly known as a "nodachi." If so, then, well. . . The Drying Pole was the name of a specific sword, while no-dachi is a type of sword. Putting No-dachi under The Drying Pole would be the equivalent of putting an article about large cats as part of a Tiger article --DurinsBane87 15:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Try merging The Drying Pole with Nodachi instead. 142.26.133.248 (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

What Is The Difference?
In terms of length, blade proportions, etc., what is the difference between an Okatana, an Odachi, and a Nodachi? I'm asking because none of the articles make this distinction very clear. Is the odaci the longest type, or the nodachi, and if so, why is this not specified, and if not, whatr is the difference between them. The Okatana article says it is a sword only slightly longer than a katana, but the odachi article says that an odaci is any sword longer than an average katana. If so, then both the Okatana and Nodachi are types of odachi, a statement that is refuted in the Nodachi article. Please help me clarify this confusion. 142.26.133.248 (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Trivia (aka Fiction)
I have moved the trivial list of fictional nodachi references here per WP:TRIV. The mere fact that "random character from obscure anime uses what might be a nodachi" is arguably not interesting, and definitely not notable. Unless these references actually enhance the readers understanding of the history or function of the nodachi itself, they belong in the article for the referenced piece of fiction or trivia, not here. Bradford44 16:33, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * In the Trading card game, Magic: The Gathering, it was a weapon that was equipped to a creature but it was spelt as no-dachi
 * In the anime/manga Samurai Deeper Kyo, the main character Demon Eyes Kyo's sword, the Tenro, takes the form of an indestructible nodachi.
 * The nodachi is also the form Ichigo Kurosaki's zanpakuto Zangetsu takes in its "Bankai" release, in the manga Bleach.
 * In Akira Kurosawa's critically acclaimed film Seven Samurai, the sword wielded by Toshiro Mifune's character, Kikuchiyo, appears to be a nodachi due to its great size and the fact that Kikuchiyo carries it slung across his back.
 * In the second chapter of Samurai Trilogy, Duel at Ichijoji Temple, Miyamoto Musashi's nemesis Sasaki Kojiro wears a nodachi (referred to as a "Drying Pole," an alternate name for the weapon.) In one scene he draws, cuts off an opponent's top-knot, and sheathes the weapon in a single motion.
 * In Final Fantasy VII and Kingdom Hearts Sephiroth uses a nodachi named masamune.
 * In Final Fantasy X and Kingdom Hearts II, Auron wields various swords, most of which resemble the nodachi due to their size.
 * In Tenchu 2: Birth of the Stealth Assassins, Lady Kagami, leader of the Burning Dawn ninja movement, uses a nodachi as her signature weapon.
 * In Vagrant Story, a nodachi can be forged or obtained by battling certain enemies.
 * In Valkyrie Profile, the nodachi (appearing as no-dachi) is one of the several swords that can be used by samurai characters.
 * In Castlevania: Curse of Darkness, the devil forgemaster, Hector, can create and wield a nodachi with a blood-stained blade.
 * In Suikoden V, the Tenman Star Dinn uses a nodachi in combat.
 * In the Samurai Warriors series, Mori Ranmaru is depicted wielding a sword identified as a nodachi.
 * Setsuna Sakurazaki of Negima wields a nodachi.
 * In Tenjou Tenge, Shin, Maya and Aya wield a tsuba-less nodachi, called the Reiki, at different times throughout the anime.
 * The nodachi also appears in both Bushido Blade games as a usable weapon. The Shainto school storyline of Bushido Blade 2 revolves around the retrieval of the Yugiri, a legendary Sue family nodachi. Tatsumi is able to perform his special attack with the nodachi.
 * In Super Dragon Ball Z, Future Trunks is able to use a nodachi by selecting it in his skill tree.
 * In Broken Sky by Christopher Wooding, Takami wields a Nodachi.
 * In Shogun: Total War there are units named nodachi samurai who wield nodachis.


 * most of those are nowhere near obscure (posted by 207.69.138.136 on 13 May 2007. Bradford44 03:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC) )


 * To the vast majority of humans on the planet, if the reference is to any video game, manga, or anime, it's obscure. Bradford44 03:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * To the vast majority of humans on the planet(people of China and India) a reference for just about anything you think isn't obscure is probably obscure. That's not really a solid argument.72.146.71.60 22:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


 * And yet nevertheless, such a list of trivia references is contrary to wikipedia policy. Bradford44 00:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Which is probably why it's here instead of in the main article. You also forget the white haired dragon-boy from Bleach. His sword is a nodachi as well. And doesn't Rukia's blade become a nodachi in its released form? 142.26.133.248 (talk) 16:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the only characters in Bleach that use a nodachi are Lisa Yadomaru, Captain Unohana, and maybe Kenpachi. If you read the article there is a difference between a normal katana and a nodachi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.55.80 (talk) 09:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


 * There really ought to be an inclusion somewhere in the article of the appearance of this type of sword in Seven Samurai as wielded by Toshiro Mifune. One need not treat the inclusion as an open door to every possible appearance in all types of media. This is, arguably, the most famous appearance of this type of sword in any media. --69.124.112.126 (talk) 05:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Editing
It seems to me like the article needs a bit of editing. If I'm not mistaken, and it's already been mentioned here from what I've seen, the line about it being said to cleave both Horse & Rider are from the Zanbato, so, with that being said, I'll remove it. 216.250.3.167 23:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Merge into ōdachi?
Despite some would-be expert's attempt to differentiate between Ōdachi and nodachi, the terms are considered essentially synonymous in Japanese. 野太刀 redirects to 大太刀 on the Japanese wikipedia, and, tellingly, there is no link on the page for nodachi to the Japanese wikipedia.

The only actual, credible reference on either page is to a dictionary entry, which defines but cannot differentiate.

--127.0.0.1 (talk) 17:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)