Talk:Nodame Cantabile

"Can't cook or clean"
Is this really necessary info for a female character? It's like fostering the sterptype that a girl has to cook or clean to be worthwhile..why don't you mention if all the male characters can cook or clean, huh?
 * It's not stereotyping females - Nodame REALLY can't cook or clean, to the degree of burning all the food, not being able to find her bed buried under all her junk, and having year-old stew left over in the pot. It's what makes Nodame what she is - someone who is unable to keep up with the daily chores but a genius at playing piano.--60.35.254.15 13:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll second the comment that she really can't cook or clean. In the first episode of the anime at one point Chiaki makes the comment that "your head stinks" and she replies "Really? I'm sure I washed it four days ago..."   Not to mention the black cream stew, the mushroom on the laundry, etc. --71.218.216.160 06:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll also back that up. The fact that she is totally incapable of taking proper care of herself is a fairly important story line element. She depends on Chiaki for much of her food, going so far as to eat at his house every night, and is known for stealing the lunches of fellow classmates at least once (so far in the anime). Chiaki also does much of her housecleaning out of disgust for her living conditions. Chiaki is her polar opposite, well mannered (if stuck up), studious, dedicated, clean and a very good cook, so its used as an "opposites attract" storyline element and is pretty important to the plot. Lando242 09:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I've tweaked her description, to make it read more appropriately, as was worded badly —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bazarnz (talk • contribs) 14:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

"Who wrote the plot??"
"Chiaki starts to question exactly how far he can possibly go in music, especially when he's passed over again and again for others he believes less worthy of musical scholarship and fame." Who wrote this mess?? When and where in the anime or manga did they say or show that Chiaki got passed over for...???? "Recently dumped by his girlfriend for a "ham" looking fellow, passed over for a chance to go overseas, and removed from his star spot in the piano competition because he walked out on his piano instructor, Chiaki is at his limit." Wow, someone watched something completely different and made one idiotic interpretation of storyline. Taking that misleading plot and copy&pasting dramawiki's synopsis which seems LOT better and accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.53.158 (talk) 02:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Those are from the live action series, in case anyone wondered. Mor liek superjerk (talk) 17:24, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Stresemann
I noticed that user:131.107.0.73 changed the spelling for Stresemann to Strezeman. Is this how they have it in the Del Rey translation? The original Japanese manga spells it Stresemann, and it is the correct/common German/Austrian spelling. --Mikeats 23:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's Stresemann in the North American version as well, so I'm going to edit back the spelling. --Mikeats 17:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * However the drama in episode 5, spells it with a "z".. so then what? Is there an original spelling in romaji in the manga? Even if not, it should be made note of somewhere. --Hitsuji Kinno 02:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Late night anime ratings record
According to ANN, the first episode of the Nodame Cantabile anime broke the late night anime record for ratings for a first episode with a 5.4% rating (it was previously held by Hajime no Ippo at 4.8%). I'll try to find the exact URL for this news item, right now it's just on the front page. How should this be added into the article? Leebo 86 19:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * 『のだめ』深夜アニメ初回視聴率の最高記録樹立 from Animate, I think it is usful.--Burning Flame 05:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm of the opinion that its not worthwhile information, and should be omitted. If one is really inclined to include it, then i guess it'd best be included in the trivia section... --Bazarnz 14:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, it would belong in a Reception section, showing its popularity. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Nodame is a real person??
Look at the link http://www.magnetic-rose.net/74x/?p=161 and http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=4441&page=22/ It said that the Nodame is a real person. But I think the source is unclear, and need other people to proved it. Is it real that Noda Megumi is exist and also dirty like that?? -- Tan pang


 * Yes, Megimi Noda is a real person confirm by Tomoko Ninomiya from an official interview (Kodansha). *リアルのだめの部屋. ピアノ弾いてるのはもちろんのだめ……. ショパンのエチュード演奏中. こんな汚い部屋で聴かされてもね. Translation of first senterence: The real Nodame house...--Burning Flame 03:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Trivia ?
Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 was both the first and the final piece ever conducted by Leonard Bernstein (in his life) and Chiaki (in the series) - uceboyx


 * Trivia, yes. And unless either the author or a reviewer notes any connection between Chikai and Bernstein, original research to boot. —Quasirandom (talk) 02:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

If hes based on anyone then its more Karajan than Bernstein. Karajan is still hugely poppular in Japan and they even used some of his recordings in anime. They even look similair, same hair, same pose when directing and he even dresses same as Karajan when he was young. Only difference is in colour of bowtie they wear. Also another thing to notice. When he finally trasforms his Paris orchestra into something good, he does that famous Karajan signature move, he closes his eyes and directs without looking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.143.114.163 (talk) 01:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

PS2 Game
Disambiguation page anyone?

Soundtracks?
Should a list (or an entirely new article even) of the official soundtracks for both the anime and the live action drama be added? Pyon 10:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes -- especially given one of them was the highest-charting classical album ever in Japan. It's on my list of things to do, unless someone else with better Japanese skills than I is up for yanking material from the ja.wiki article before I do. —Quasirandom (talk) 02:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Differences between anime and manga
Since anime has ended and manga has not, I am assuming there are some. Anybody can tell us about them? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 03:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, differences from the live-action version. Though, the anime is continuing, onto a third season at least. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:41, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which, I just stumbled across this, which addresses differences between live-acrtion and anime. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The ko.wiki article has a list of anime adaptation differences -- here's a machine translation. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Character and Episode List Page
The character section is rather long and taking up quite a bit of room on the page. I would like to suggest creating a new page for the characters. EikaKou (talk) 06:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the list of episodes should be given their own pages before the list of characters.  Louis Waweru   Talk  12:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Both then, now that I see how long the episode list is. EikaKou (talk) 03:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Reception links
Since one of the things missing from the article is a Reception section, a section for accumulating links to reviews, until someone is up for summarizing them:


 * ANN review of v5-6 - used
 * ANN review of v10 - used
 * ANN review of v11 - used
 * ANN review of v14 - used
 * brief ANN review of v15 - used
 * review of drama - whoops, no, that's only user reviews
 * Comics Journal review of v6 - used
 * Mania.com reviews v1, v2, v3, v5, v6, v7, v8 , v9, v10 , v11, v12 , v13, v14 - some used
 * IGN review the DS game - reader review
 * Anime Planet review of anime S1 - used
 * Nihon Review review of anime S1 - used
 * Nihon Review of live-action S1 - used

Feel free to add more as you come across them -- or to make use of 'em. I note that, once the Reception section is created, the sales figures currently in the lead should be moved down to it, and the award copied down. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:07, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * There -- incorporated this round. Need to keep a lookout for more, of course, but on to other tasks, like referencing the characters. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:54, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * A couple paragraphs down this page, someone of apparent stature makes comments about the music in the DS game, but machine translation is not much help. Can someone assist here? As in, is this useful Reception information? —Quasirandom (talk) 16:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Here's a nifty one: a paper given at the 2007 conference of the International Research Society for Children's Literature analyzing silent scenes in manga. Section 3.2 (in part 2) parses one of the orchestra performances from Nodame Cantabile vol 17. Useful scholarly attention being paid to the article. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:48, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Other comment
That one. Matt Thorn criticizes Nodame Cantabile translation. --KrebMarkt 18:46, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Nicely ranted there. Definitely something to incorporate, if we can figure out how. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * There -- incorporated. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


 * ANN Brain Diving column

--KrebMarkt (talk) 09:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Translation help?
The de.wiki article uses this page as a reference that the series has sold over 22 million volumes as of April 2007, but my limited nihongo skillz cannot confirm this. Can anyone give an assist here? It'd be nice to have a) more recent numbers b) sourced to a live webpage. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, the de.wiki article uses this page to cite the Drama Academy awards, which is the main page, and I'm having trouble finding the specific season the awards were given. Can anyone give a navigational assist here? (I'd also for help for the Korean drama awards (miniseries, director, music) but the link given for that is dead.) —Quasirandom (talk) 22:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, found the actuall Drama Academy Awards announcement page, but still need sales figures and the Korean one. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Another: could someone double-check my rendering of the music section against the ja.wiki article? I'm pretty confident I got the composers right (interwikilinks FTW), but the rest could use better (read, more fluent) eyes. —Quasirandom (talk) 23:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Orchestra name
Does anyone know why the articles give the name of the school orchestra as the R-S Orchestra instead of R☆S Orchestra? The latter is how it's rendered in the only official translation available (the Del Rey manga). —Quasirandom (talk) 22:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Since no one has a reason, I'll replace the uses with the official version. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Live-action episodes
Is anyone up for starting the episode list for the live-action drama? Which, considering it won several awards, can be considered more notable than the anime, and at any rate ought to have equal coverage. Though when we spin it out, we'll have name trouble, given the current anime list -- we should move that to something less ambiguous. —Quasirandom (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Next steps
I'm pulling the comments from the latest reviewer to evaluate against the B-class checklist (by AnmaFinotera) out into the open, because they make a sort of informal peer-review:
 * "Fails coverage and accuracy: with manga list here, the lack of summaries leaves it incomplete though with the length of the series, consider a split here. Any more production information available? Character section seems unnecessary and more of a continuation of the plot, consider merge?"

In other words, here's our next steps to improve the article. Along with, as in the previous section, a list of live-action episodes. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Personally, I'd prefer to fill in the manga volume summaries before splitting the list off, but that's personal taste, how I work. There's evidently some production/development info available in the official sites, especially in the interviews, but they're in Japanese so someone else will have to incorporate that. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, we need sections in Media for the games and for the soundtracks. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Music need expert editing.
 * Guess i must add it to my to do list :(
 * Someone mixed ISBN and Amazon ASIN.
 * Nodame Orchestra LIVE! : Oricon CD profile Peak rank 6, Number of weak charted 29
 * It will be after Aria (manga), CardCaptor Sakura & Maria Sama ga Miteru. --KrebMarkt 11:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That someone would be me -- I kinda realized what I was doing around the time I got distracted and moved on to other projects. The music section is, in fact, incomplete, as there's several more albums available on Amazon.jp than are listed, and teasing out which are manga, anime, video game, or general franchise tie-ins was not easy. Though after experience with Aria (manga), maybe it'll be easier. *bows to sensei* —Quasirandom (talk) 14:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The kōhai returns bow to his *Wiki Sempai*. i will dig the refs and give you the resources to edit properly. KrebMarkt 15:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * See my reference repository : user:KrebMarkt/Support started it. Tricky as some CDs aren't referenced in the official discography page Cursing Sony for that.


 * Coolness. (Yeah, that thing where no one lists all the albums = frustrating.) I'll bump this up in my queue, to work on after Aria -- probably competing with High School Debut for my attention (I have a reception section for that half-written, plus references for the character descriptions). —Quasirandom (talk) 16:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Done or to be more precise this is as much as i could find on the web : 20 albums & singles. ;)
 * Bit off topic : i put in Talk:Yotsuba&! a ref to wayback machine as the ADV ref is dead for now. KrebMarkt 15:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Paris-Hen
"After graduation, Nodame succeeds in curing Chiaki from his fear of planes and they both move to Paris where Nodame will continue her piano studies at a conservatory while Chiaki starts a professional career as a conductor. In Europe, they encounter new friends and rivals, as well as keep in touch with their friends from Japan." This should summary for be for paris-hen, which only has about 11 episodes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.172.174 (talk) 18:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It applies to the manga, and in any case Paris Chapter is simply the name given to the second seasons -- still part of the same series. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * DramaWiki and Reference versions are written better eloquently instead of current change, which is bit too overdramatic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.172.174 (talk) 05:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Manga end date
Okay, the citations listed in the Manga section say the manga is supposed to end in the spring, not October -- at least, the English does, and as best I can tell from the Japanese it agrees with that. User:Omimon, could you provide a reference for the assertion that it's ending early? —Quasirandom (talk) 20:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Nodame Cantabile
I was wondering whether or not to add the meaning of the manga's title into the topic paragraph, as I thought it would be nice for people completely oblivious to it, that it literally means "Nodame with Feeling". Just a bit of additional info. I don't think it should go into a trivia section though, as IT IS the title.132.177.4.38 (talk) 07:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


 * An argument can be made for at least defining cantabile in the lead, possibly near Nodame's name. At one point, it was mentioned with a wikilink in the start of the plot, but with editing the first mention is now in the Manga section, which is ripe for splitting off once more volume summaries are added. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Not sure if this was added and later removed, but i would suggest adding it to the introductory paragraphs. It should also use the correct definition of "Cantabile", which is "songlike" or as a direction: "like a singing voice", rather than "with feeling", which would be written "con anima" or more commonly as simply "with feeling".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dunerat (talk • contribs) 15:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

English dub
Sony has produced an English dub for the first season, and has made it available on Crackle, their video streaming site. However, as far as I know they have not actually licensed the series. Can any more industry-savvy folks explain this unusual situation? Do any more clued-in fans know if this dub is the one that aired on Animax Asia? Is this even worth a mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.166.218.66 (talk) 17:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to start an edit war, but...
can you please stop editing this Wiki page saying that this Josei anime and manga was set in Paris, France?! Because Tomoko moved to Paris, France to live there and study about music. :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by ONS3Tnow (talk • contribs) 00:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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