Talk:Noel Lee (executive)/GA2

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 22:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Per the note on your page, I'll go ahead and review this. I have a couple reviews I'm wrapping up currently but I should get to this in a couple days. Wizardman 22:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Actually I got nearly caught up already, so here it is. Here's the issues I found:
 * "he founded Monster Cable Products in 1979 based on loudspeaker cable" wouldn't it be loudspeaker cables? I guess it could technically be either depending on how the sentence is meant to be interpreted.
 * ✅ CorporateM (Talk) 00:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * "His father worked for China's Central News Agency and he had four sisters." Did he or his father have the four sisters? As worded it's confusing.
 * ✅ CorporateM (Talk) 00:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * "Lee's parents moved to San Francisco from China after the Chinese Communist Revolution in 1949" He was both in 48 yet they moved to his birthplace in 49? I feel like I'm either missing something here or the year is a bit off (based on /GA1 my guess is this is just residue from finding a birthdate, so a rewording should be fine.)
 * The source just says "fled China as the Communist Party seized power". user:Ritchie333, I think this was your edit and he may have more context. CorporateM (Talk) 00:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * "stranded in Hawaii, until they could earn " rm comma
 * ✅ CorporateM (Talk) 00:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Link cottage industry.
 * ✅ CorporateM (Talk) 00:46, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The part about sales training confuses me a bit; was the bundling being pushed from Monster itself or the retailers? The first paragraph in establishment, namely the sentence "This was primarily due to training sales staff at electronics stores to bundle the cables with other electronics purchases, an effort the company spent 15 percent of its revenues on by 1998." reads like Monster was providing the salespeople to the retailers. I'm sure that's not right, but I'm not sure what exactly that sentence is trying to say.
 * Monster provides training to the retailer's salespeople. The retailer welcomes such training, because of the profit margins. CorporateM (Talk) 00:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ is that clearer? One thing I noticed is that the criticisms of that business model are not included; these criticisms are a pretty big deal on the Monster page and deserve a mention. CorporateM (Talk) 00:53, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh nevermind - it's in the prior section "This led to criticisms that his business model creates aggressive salespeople" Just waiting to see if Richie has any comments on the Russia item. CorporateM (Talk) 00:56, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Article seems good for the most part. I'll put it on hold and pass when the issues are fixed. Wizardman 00:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Re: the salespeople, that makes sense; that's something that strikes me as pretty rare so I didn't expect that to be the case. Now just waiting on the one edit noted above. Wizardman  00:57, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Meh, I just changed it here to something closer to what the source says. Presumably it was referring to the communist revolution, but the source says "as" as oppose to "after", but even then it sounds like it was actually something more along the lines of "just before" technically, so I just put "around the same time" as it's approximately the same time. CorporateM (Talk) 01:29, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That works for me. Everything else checks out, so I'll pass the article. Wizardman  01:44, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Looks like I missed the review - I didn't get any pings here, but I did get the one on CorporateM's talk. I guess the birth date issue was resolved? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:17, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Ritchie. I pinged you above regarding the discussion about this phrase: "after the Chinese Communist Revolution in 1949". Since he was born in the US in December 1948, his parents must have moved just before (rather than after) the1949 event. However, I just put something along the lines of "around the same time" based on what the source says. CorporateM (Talk) 15:50, 12 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh yes, he was born in December 1948, not 1949. D'uuuh. I didn't get the ping as recently discussed on WP:VPT. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:38, 12 January 2015 (UTC)