Talk:Noise control

=From Talk:Noise mitigation before merger=

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Dispersal of introduction
A user had altered this article by inserting a number of inaccuracies. Architectural design and occupational noise control are not "sources" of noise as the edit stated. That edit seems to be an awkward cut and paste of materials already in the article, but the arrangement has broungt in the inaccuracies. further the introduction was shortened to one line and all substantive information present in the introduction was dispersed to other parts of the article. Wikipedia guidelines for well written articles state the desirability of an introduction (see FAC item 3) to span the topic. The inaccuracies and removal of a substantive introduction have been reverted. In the future that editor is advised to discuss major article changes on the article talk page....i would hope others would comment on this matter. Covalent 16:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Noise mitigation
You have altered this article by inserting a number of inaccuracies. Architectural design and occupational noise control are not "sources" of noise as your edit states. Your edit seems to be an awkward cut and paste of materials already in the article, but your arrangement has broungt in the inaccuracies. further you have dispersed the introduction. Wikipedia guidelines for well written articles state the desirability of an introduction (see FAC item 3) to span the topic. In your edit the introduction has one line which alludes to no substance. In the future it might be prudent to discuss major article changes on the article talk page, until your factual knowledge of a topic advances. Please respond on the article talk page if you care to respond. Covalent 16:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I merely added some headings. Yes some material would need to be moved to make sense under these headings. Sorry. --Light current 17:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You have removed some important images desirable to the illustration of this article. Your heading of interior noise now confuses the reader, since it overlaps (in an unnecessary way) the existing architectural solutions heading with its content.  The information as presented was useful in the introduction.  Please discuss such structural changes in advance, since your edits seem to regress the article, deprive useful information to the reader and remove the completeness of an introduction as set forth in wikipedia guidelines for introductions.Covalent 18:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

What do the images illustrate actually?--Light current 20:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * the images illustrate as follows:


 * roadway photo shows variations in roadway geometrics (grade, curvature, etc) and terrain which are very important to roadway source strength and propagation respectively.

OK I have modified caption to bring this out.--Light current 02:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * hybrid vehicle which is the only major transportation source noise reduction invention in 100 years (electric cars would suffice also, but they have failed to become widely distributed as hybrids have and continue to gain market share).

THis could be any car. It looks similar to mine! A better imge should be chosen here.--Light current 02:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * aircraft. i have found a new image that shows proximity to homes. probably a better demonstration of the effect of aircraft noise.

I dont have a problem with the aircraft over homes image. THis illustrates te problem well.--Light current 03:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * cheers, Covalent 02:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your constructive edit to the roadway photo. Covalent 02:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * first of all, i am not associated with any hybrid auto manufacturers. but the point is that hybrid technology is an incredible breakthrough for enivironmental noise and most people dont realize that fact.  hybrids are rather non-distintive looking, but this is a very notable point in the whole article and well worth an image to make such a point clear. Do you have a better idea for a photo? we could use the lexus RX but it looks more like a typical suv than the prius resembles its counterparts.

A comparison graph of noise o/p from conventional and hybrid cars would be far more illustrative.--Light current 03:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the Autobahn picture, we ought to say whether this a is a good design of road and house placement or not. I dont have any idea from the picture or the article!.--Light current 03:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


 * caption has been expanded to so explain. Covalent 01:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

OK thats a lot clearer. Thats what I mean about the use of images-- we have to be explicit.--Light current 01:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Car caption
Example of what we need:

This hybrid vehicle produces (20 dB) less noise than conventional cars because of .....blah blah

--Light current 01:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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Regulations and Recommendations
I added this section and included some regulations from a few organizations. If anyone thinks of other organizations that should be included, feel free to add it! Is there anything I need to change, improve, or add? Any help would be much appreciated. Brennen.d.kar (talk) 02:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

=Talk:Noise control=

Merge with Noise mitigation?
"Noise control" doesn't seem to be any sort of architectural term, but a sweeping industry term for noise reduction methods and products. This article contains far more information relating to noise reduction products than "noise control" itself. The information in this article would make a great addition to architectural acoustics - I'm suggesting that it be merged there. Adhall 17:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Noise control includes far more than architectural noise control - examples are environmental noise control (highway noise barriers), hearing protection, reduction of noise from machinery. Noise control engineering should be included as a branch of acoustics. Dulciepercy


 * You are both right ....the material as presently writtne is all about architectural acoustics and should be moved there, but dulciepercy is correct than noise control as a topic includes the regulatory aspects of noise control and technical measures such as noise barriers, industrial noise mitigation and a host of other aspects...i think we need to start fresh with a new article if we want to address noise control in its entirety. so in other words ok to merge for now, because the existing article is a pathetic attempt to cover this vast topic, cheers Anlace 22:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Another closely related category is "environmental acoustics". A couple of us are currently working on cleanup of the "acoustics" article. We are fixing to stay with the PACS subcategories for better or worse. Based on this we will likely be listing "environmental acoustics" and "architectural acoustics" as two distinct subfields of acoustics, and listing this article on "noise control" with a link. Help appreciated to keep the connections good and clean. Adrian Pollock (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I definitely agree that architectural and environmental noise control are far different, so I wanted to add industrial (in situ) and mechanical (equipment) noise control to the fray. e.g. A car makes noise internally that bugs the driver, so an engineer works on the engine. Another engineer works on the chassis. Another works on the interior. Another engineer works on the exhaust. Externally, a lot of cars bug people near a freeway, so another engineer works on the overpasses. Another one works on a building nearby. And finally, the person inside the building wants total silence, so he dons a headphone designed by another engineer.


 * Also, might I mention that Acoustic quieting covers much of this. It would take a concerted effort to redo all of these articles to separate out architectural, environmental, industrial, military, and audiophile disciplines from each of the articles mentioned. I would disagree with Noise control's decision to say "There are four basic principles of noise control" when the Acoustic quieting article discusses quite a few more, including efforts to minimize aerodynamic stalls, water hammer, resonance, and a lengthy discussion of ways to simply keep an observer from hearing the noise, the equivalent of moving the freeway or a person away from the freeway. I like to saw logs! (talk) 08:42, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The contents of the two articles have changed considerably since the above discussion, but the articles are still redundant. I am merging them to noise control and attempting to make the result comprehensive based on the comments above. -- Beland (talk) 20:43, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Architectural Sound Protection
At present, the article claims: "Firstly, airborne sound travels through walls or floor and ceiling assemblies and can emanate from either human activities in adjacent living spaces or from mechanical noise within the building systems."

What about construction noise, backup beepers, sirens, aircraft, etc.? 74.96.172.110 (talk) 17:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)


 * My bad, that was only referring to sound from within the building. But what can people do to defend themseves from sound from elsewhere? 74.96.172.110 (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)