Talk:Nonverbal communication/Archive 2

voice
I've just deleted a section about voice. Can someone add something referenced about nonverbal aspects of voice communication (tone, pitch, volume, pauses, etc.?) I guess it should be a well-developed field and I will be surprized if it missed form wikipedia. - Altenmann >t 21:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
 * oops. Please disregard: Nonverbal communication. I guess, $200-words are not good for section titles: difficult to find for laypeople. I will clarify them. - Altenmann >t 22:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Needs checking
I fixed some earlier changes (that look like halfhearted tests) from March 1.

I noticed these later changes that also look problematic, but I don't have time or expertise to scrutinize closely. If someone who knows the topic well could check those edits, and fix as needed, it'd be appreciated. Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 19:29, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Why humans evolved is a verbal form of language?
Here, like, interesting material on this topic. Ибадов (talk) 19:33, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Virtual NVC
We should try to incorporate some information on digital NVC into the article. An example of this would be cooperation of two or more individuals in a multiplayer online game, especially when there is a complete language barrier between all parties. —  C M B J  06:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Optical NVC
NVC is observable in areas of transportation. For example, a driver may repeatedly alternate between bright and dim headlight beams in order to warn another driver of danger. Similarly, light housees and smoke signals should be mentioned here. —  C M B J  03:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comments on quality of the article
I think the structure of the page is good, starting with the distinction btw verbal and oral communication.

The discussion of the arbitrariness versus universality of non-verbal communication is highly incomplete. Facial expression of emotion are not the only universal nonverbal signs. E.g., smiles as used as a indicator of friendliness (e.g., RA Hinde) or the glance/glance away sequence associated with flirting (e.g., Eibl-Eibesfeldt, 1971), touching associated with intimacy and perhaps nonverbal signs of shyness) also seem to be universal. I think this section could be profitably expanded.

The section of characteristic of nonverbal communication gives some wrong information (e.g., nonverbal cues are culture bound and more reliable (than what?). There are no citations for any of these claims here.

The section on clothing and bodily characteristics could profitably use a discussion about the signaling of status via choice of dress (Goffman?). This section could also include some of the research on body characteristics that make potential partners more sexually attractive -- e.g., facial symmetry associated with judgments of attractiveness (

Rhodes, G., Zebrowitz, L., Clark, A., Kalick, S., Hightower, A., & McKay, R. (2001). Do facial averageness and symmetry signal health? Evolution and Human Behavior, 22(1), 31-46; Grammer, K., Fink, B., Møller, A. P., & Thornhill, R. (2003). Darwinian aesthetics: sexual selection and the biology of beauty. Biological Reviews, 78(3), 385-407. ) Section on eye gaze only addresses eye contact. Human and animals both give off more signals via the eyes eye contact (e.g., whether they are cognitively engaged by looking away in speaking). Might be useful to mention the physical evolution of the eye (dark pupil set in a white surround) that makes the eye specialized for communication.

NVC and deception: This section could be updated with more recent research (e.g. Sporer, S.L., and B. Schwandt. 2007. Moderators of nonverbal indicators of deception: A meta-analytic synthesis. Psych. Pub. Pol. and L. 13:1-273).

The article needs to include a section on pheromones and scents as a non-verbal signal.

I think the article needs a section on non-human communication, or a least a pointer to this topic. A discussion of the evolutionary origins of various non-verbal signals is needed. Robertekraut (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

King's University College
I have decided to edit this article for Psych 2410A at Kings 2012. Mkastela (talk) 18:09, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome!  Lova Falk     talk   18:19, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I noticed a lot of citations that are not hyper-linked correctly. I'm going to attempt to correct them if i can find the source in the history of changes.

I also plan on adding a section on the development and progression of nonverbal communication skills in young children. Mkastela (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I will also be editing this article for Psych 2410A at Kings 2012. Jmart264 (talk) 21:50, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I plan on editing the article for grammar and spelling, as well as work on the section on the development and progression of nonverbal communication in young children by adding the results of an empirical article titled "Young children's understanding of markedness in non-verbal communication" from the Journal of Child Language. Jmart264 (talk) 22:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Culture
I have added a new section called: Culture. It introduces how Indigenous Mayan communities use nonverbal communication to teach their children how to participate in the Mayan adult world. So far its one paragraph, but I plan to add two more paragraphs. These additional two paragraphs I add will give examples of children learning through nonverbal communication in Indigenous Mayan communities. Just a heads up, the reference I will use for the last two paragraphs will come from Rogoff, B., Mistry, J., Göncü, A., & Mosier, C. (1993). Guided participation in cultural activity by toddlers and caregivers. Monographs of the Society for Research in Child Development, 58(8, Serial no. 236), i-179. Please let me know what you think. Cmstone123 (talk) 20:41, 26 November 2012 (UTC) Cheryl
 * I think this section is well written, well referenced and really interesting. However, I wonder a bit about the name of the section. Calling a description of non-verbal communication in Indigenous Mayan communities for "Culture" for me sounds a bit biased - our way is normal, their way is culture. You understand what I mean? Also, the whole section is very positive about the non-verbal guidance, but aren't there some disadvantages also?  Lova Falk     talk   14:18, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Tournesol.png|43px|left]]PS I really appreciate that you invited us to discuss with you here on the talk page.  Lova Falk     talk   14:29, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

New addition to nonverbal communication across cultures
I believe there are many more examples and explanations that can be added to the section titled "Across cultures".

As a brief summary, when I am finished with the additions to this section, there will be a few main points in the article. First, I would like to give more examples of how gestures are used, why they are used, and how they are used in many cultures. Right now the article only gives a few different examples of the different meanings to gestures across cultures. Next, I would like to discuss and give more examples of the emotional relationship between gestures and the communication that is truly being conveyed. Finally, I would like to give an addition to the nonverbal actions subsection and discuss the similarities and differences of nonverbal actions and kinesics across several different cultures. These additions will provide a more holistic explanation of nonverbal communication across cultures while also offering more examples and details to this section of the article.

Lcollins09 (talk) 20:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Lcollins09Lcollins09 (talk) 20:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! Please remember that Wikipedia articles should not be based on WP:primary sources, but on reliable, published secondary sources (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources (such as undergraduate textbooks). WP:MEDRS describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for this article as well. With friendly regards,  Lova Falk     talk   09:10, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

I have made some updates on the page. I would appreciate some feedback. Thank you. Lcollins09 (talk) 05:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)lcollins09Lcollins09 (talk) 05:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

I have looked over your updates. The additions to nonverbal actions was great, and I think you did a great job on the references for it also. Dprice12 (talk) 23:30, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

More empathetic presentation
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It should be noted that while this essay is not in encyclopedic form, those who need to learn about nonverbal communication the most may find it much more easily digestible in a more personal reflection, which is what the author appears to have done. This alone should be a testament to the critical importance of the manner of presentation, not only in what information is presented, but how it is presented. Encyclopedias present information in an authoritative manner, but when it comes to understanding the most critical of human behaviors and the intricacies of human interaction, it should be very obvious to us all that the authoritative approach is not always the most effective.

(Text added by User:Adam J Read, removed from article.) __ Just plain Bill (talk) 15:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Reorganization of Across Cultures Section
I am thinking that reorganizing this section would make things more clear.

The section titled "nonverbal action" I feel would fit better within the Across Cultures introduction area, as it discusses multiple cultures, rather than a specific one. And because the section on "Indigenous American communities" takes the "Across Cultures" section from broad to specific, the "nonverbal action" section could do better before the "Indigenous American communities" portion starts."

What are your thoughts?

- I definitely agree with the "nonverbal action" section being moved. It doesn't fit being thrown in at the end of the "Indigenous American Communities" section. Try not to say that these nonverbal practices are the same across all cultures, as well as refraining from contrasting how "different" Indigenous American Communities' cultural practices are from Westernized, European-American culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshLichtner (talk • contribs) 17:40, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

chronological order of non verbal communication.
Signs Symbols Codes colours Vinnaasiwal (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Too big a mess
It includes visual cues such as body language (kinesics), but also the use of voice (paralanguage), touch (haptics), distance (proxemics), and physical environments/appearance.[1] In can also include: proxemics, or the informal space around the body; chronemics, the use of time - and oculesics, eye contact and the actions of looking while talking and listening, frequency of glances, patterns of fixation, pupil dilation, and blink rate.

I'm not even going to fix the obvious typo. &mdash; MaxEnt 05:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

How I quickly trimmed it for my own synopsis:

It includes visual cues such as body language (kinesics), but also the use of voice (paralanguage), touch (haptics), distance (proxemics), physical environments/appearance, chronemics (the use of time), and oculesics (eye contact, frequency of glances, patterns of fixation, pupil dilation, and blink rate).

I didn't put this into parallel structure. I vote for putting the technical names first all the way through with the explanatory gloss in parentheses. &mdash; MaxEnt 05:15, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I've just edited the article.. I vote for a bullet list. I agree to unify the format, be it technobabble first. I suggest to group by senses. Because visual cue not only body lang. Distance and blinking are visual cues too (unless somebody can hear you blink :-). On the other hand, body language is not only visual cues : it includes hugging; or not? Anyway, WTH, where are the sources which do this classification? I feel I am plunging into OR. -M.Altenmann >t

Unusual use of nonverbal cues
There are people (autistic people for example) who use and interpret nonverbal cues very differently from most people, but I can't find any mention of this in the article. I'm not sure but I feel like there should really be something...? Please tell me if I missed something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.220.89.183 (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

five senses
There are more than five senses. I don't know enough about this topic to excise the misconception (if appropriate).Dranorter (talk) 07:26, 9 January 2017 (UTC)