Talk:Noodling

Noodle?
What the heck does that means in this context? The arm? That would seem due to what noodling is described as in the links... Or it means "spaghetti strip"? My first impression was far less educated, more along the lines of Richard's hypocoristic. That needs serious correction... Really... Herle's King 15:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I think the sticking of your arm into a hole is the 'noodling' part. Noodling, niggling, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

intro
I originally intended to write this article as a stub for Wikipedia, but as it progressed it got bigger and I decided to post it to Everything2, where I was still a contributor at times. I decided to post it here as well almost as an afterthought, and although I removed some of the more obvious jokes and references that make an E2 article funny/witty/sarcastic/whatever to amuse and entertain, it still feels somewhat unprofessionally written and not terribly encyclopedic. I just recently went through and reworded it a bit, but it still feels a bit off. If feel like I've done all with it that I can, and it now requires the work of someone not so intimately entwined with the words to go through and reword things so it's more suited for WP. Thanks. --AsianAstronaut 05:09, 2004 Nov 14 (UTC)

I know of a case documented in the early part of the 20th century in the Kansas River where a man drowned after noodling a catfish with a hook tied to his arm. It is metioned in an exhibit on noodling at the University of Kansas Natural History Museum. --Nonbonumest

It says that noodling is an extreme sport. Given that catfish do not have teeth, I would like to call this judgement into question. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.163.173.127 (talk • contribs) 05:34, 20 July 2006 (UTC-7)


 * Ok, so...the requirement for extreme sports is teeth?

To the above post, when you are catching a fish this large http://www.lochnessinvestigation.org/Catfish-Po.JPG with your bare hands i would say that it is extreme regardless of teeth.

I also think this article should be kept seperate from trout tickling since they are completely different. Trout tickling is not how you catch the fish it is how you subdue the fish so you can get it to shore without losing it.

Bias
As stated, the sport of Noodling isn't confined to the United States, so it seems necessary to drop the US bias, and provide a more objective look at the sport.

For instance, descriptions of Noodling within the US (such as those found in the introduction) need to be moved to a part labeled as such, and labels such as "Noodling Outside of the South" need to be dropped. Until someone with greater knowledge of Noodling anywhere outside of the US decides to contribute, a broader label describing such places will suffice, as long as they're specified as the actual area containing Noodling (not "Outside of the US").

Needs cleanup
The picture caption is bad, I can fix that, but someone has to go through and remove bias, uses of "you", etc. Tagged.

Removing elements
In paragraph 1 it suggests noodling is typically done naked. ???, never heard of that. Later in the article it is suggested that noodling is almost never done naked but in trunks, because of potential dangers involved with stumps etc. in the water. Since neither statement is sourced, I'm taking out both references. (Also, does nakedness really matter in the context of the article?) If anyone wants to reliably source either view and reinsert, be my guest. Laughing Vulcan 00:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I would not say Noodling is done exclusively naked. Naked Noodling is but one style.  Perhaps the article should be extended to account for Naked Noodling?


 * There is also Noodling "John Holmes style." This type of nooding is for men only and only for those with the proper equipment.  You have to have the right tool to noodle in this manner.  Despite some saying that catfish do not have teeth, the inherent danger here is that the lack of bone in this appendage increases vunrability.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.116.212.32 (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Makes no sense
I have no idea what noodling is, and thanks to this article, I still don't. I see it's a way of catching catfish, but
 * Noodling is the practice and sport of fishing for catfish by throwing your noodle into the water. Your noodle, or sometimes refered to as "your snake" is thrust into the water with the hopes of a catfish grabbing hold of the potential lure.

What the hell is a noodle? Do you mean a strip of pasta? Or your penis? Your head? The rest of the article seems to imply this has something to do with your arms, but google isn't helping and I still have no idea what a noodle is. --General Miaow Say Hello! 08:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I deleted and re worded all that stuff. It was someone trying to be funny. I come from a "noodlin" part of the country. Douglar 16:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

"In the UK this technique is known as guddling"
That's from the opening paragraph, but it's incorrect. In Scotland, guddling is trout tickling, the word has no link to stumping, the only way they are related is by the fact their both hand fishing techniques. Maybe someone could add this information, I'll remove the sentence shown above. 138.38.217.149 (talk) 17:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Alternate name
Noodling is also called "hand fishing" in the new PBS documentary on this subject, so this should be added as an alternate term (and a redirect or disambiguation page created). Badagnani (talk) 02:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

needs citations
come on. only one note in the whole entry!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stev0supreemo (talk • contribs) 09:01, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

history?
No information is given on the history of noodling, origins, or how the name came about. (10/5/2011)

Noodling Link Deletion

 * Transfered from User talk:Epipelagic

Yesterday, May 21st, 2012, I added a link on the noodling article for Jerry Rider's website since he was featured prominently in the article. I noticed you removed it for spam. Would it be more appropriate if I linked directly to his bio page on his website, so as to avoid the "spammy" elements? Or would it be more appropriate to create a separate article for him since he is a major figure in the practice? If that article was written, would it be appropriate to link to his website on that article? I'd appreciate any help you can give on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.254.138 (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I removed the link, because it was primarily dedicated to promoting Jerry Rider as a commercial entity. You are welcome, yourself, to start an article on Jerry Rider if you think he is sufficiently notable. Wikipedia has a guideline concerning notability here. You can use this to reassess whether Jerry Rider is notable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. The notability needs to be current, and not just some faded fame he had many years ago. If you decide to start the article, this guideline is also relevant. The article is likely to be challenged unless you can establish notability based on reliable souces. You can search news items and books on Google for usable sources, though based on some casual searches I made, there doesn't seem to be much there. A single appearance on the Letterman show in 1989 wouldn't be sufficient to establish notability. You can use information on Jerry Rider's website to establish personal facts about the man himself, such as when he was born, but not about public assessments. For example, Rider claims he is the "original noodler", yet a search on Google provides nothing much to support this claim. --Epipelagic (talk) 11:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Would more recent articles mentioning him as a major noodling figure, or his current appearance on a history channel show about noodling qualify as continued notability in the field? I would think that would indicate he's still looked upon as an authority in noodling, right?--64.207.254.138 (talk) 20:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Well if you think you can establish enough notability with reliable sources, then go ahead and start writing the article. Please be careful to put everything into your own words, so there are no signs of copyright violations. I will keep an eye out and help if it seems appropriate. But as I indicated above, it may be difficult to establish enough notability for Rider. Also, since this seems to be an issue for you, you should examine whether you have a conflict of interest here. --Epipelagic (talk) 23:09, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Regulation Prohibits Hand Fishing in Iowa as of 2015
According to Iowa Fishing Regulations from the Iowa Department of Natural Resources "It is no longer legal to hand fish." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.3.77.229 (talk) 09:41, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

noodling also means “to improvise, experiment, or think creatively”
See for example: which identifies this usage as “1935-40, Americanism; origin uncertain” BananaSlug (talk) 20:39, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Deepthroating?
Lol methinks somebody vandalized the opening paragraph real good. I'm too lazy to google around and verify all those names but somebody probably should, lol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.217.181 (talk) 12:03, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Methinks you may be right. (Or it may indeed be a genuine slang someplace with the allusion intended.  We anglers can be strange folk.)  Easiest way is to delete the list and let people add them back in with verifiable reliable sourcing for the more pornuspective ones.  And already done.  Good catch, IP editor, and glad you didn't have to deepthroat to get it!   Laughing Vulcan  13:16, 2 September 2016 (UTC)