Talk:Noose

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The knot is tied by taking ones dick and wrapping it in Christmas gift wrap. Once this step has been accomplished, the individual must hail the almighty Lord Cthulhu while playing Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Rae Cyrus. once this has been achieved, the individual must set him/herself ablaze and run around naked chanting the Old Testament of the Holy Bible. Finally, one must take the sacred rope of his/her mother's anal beads and throw them into the grave of Joan Rivers while singing I'm a little Teapot. The noose should now be tied tightly and securely, ready to be hung from your front porch to show them negros/colored folk/hood rats you ain't no common white folk.

Merger proposal
These two articles are of the same topic and should be merged — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.138.35.25 (talk) 14:05, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree, but I don't know how to do this myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.184.238 (talk) 22:40, 4 March 2014 (UTC)


 * A hangman's knot is a type of noose; a noose is not necessarily a hangman's knot. They should not be merged. 72.200.151.13 (talk) 19:21, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose, for same reasons stated by 72.200.151.13 above. See reply below to more recent merge request for additional discussion.  --Dfred (talk) 16:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Comments
I may be wrong, but this is traditionally refered to as a half-hitch. A noose and a hangmans knot are used interchangably for what Wikipedia lists as the hangman's knot. Rarely you'll find that a noose refers to any slipknot. - Dastal 01:26, 6 December 2005 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought too (hence my note at the top of the article linking to the actual noose) but plenty of people seem to disagree. Maybe it's an american word or something? Ojw 19:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

'A couple of noose incidents?' Anyone got any more info than that? And why is this copied and pasted from AP?144.96.18.206 21:12, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Growing up in the Midwest (60's) the noose was never associated with hanging blacks. I believe this is regional and while terrible should not condemn the noose which was a symbol of justice over the criminal. A tall tree and a short rope was a way of dealing with local crime during a period of our countries history when frontier justice was shaping our nations future. Twisted distortions of this was regional not nationwide. Were black men hung? No doubt, but many more white men met their maker swinging from the noose in the name of justice. To allow the noose to be perverted into a symbol of racial hate when in fact it served as a symbol of justice for so many years is a sign of our pandering times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bheath6023 (talk • contribs) 15:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

worst page ever
srsly. Politics has taken this over -- And poorly organized and sourced politics at that. I'm going to try to reorganize everything here, restore old sections, and cut out the superfluous sections. 139.102.239.12 (talk) 21:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Changes I've made: removed references to symbology not related to the noose; restored picture which was deleted three months ago; removed analysis of "hate crime" which is original research, and belongs on the "hate crime" wiki page (statistics as well); removed references to capital punishment statutes, which belong on the "capital punishment" wiki page.

However, the intimidation incidents still need to be sourced, and I don't feel like doing it. 139.102.239.12 (talk) 21:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

-- It's amazing. I'm gone for two weeks and every piece of information directly related to the knot has been deleted and replaced with an essay on hate crimes.

...again.

This requires a revert. If you are going to add information on intimidation incidents please do not delete important information, and please create a separate section for more specific details that do not fit in with the overview. 139.102.239.12 (talk) 08:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Tarbuck knot
There are three articles that probably should be merged into noose; Tarbuck knot, Running bowline, and Hangman's knot. Each of these is a "noose" and is pretty much a stub on their own aside from Hangman's knot, which needs some trimming to make it encyclopedic. Merging into noose seems the best way to achieve an article that is complete, encyclopedic, and not fragmented to the reader searching for information on this topic. Chrisw80 (talk) 19:11, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Chrisw80!


 * While I do think that the stubbiness of these articles should be addressed, I do not think their merger into Noose is the way to go.


 * Below are some comments about about the categorization of Nooses/Running knots/Slip knots. But on the specific topic of the Tarbuck knot I think it is probably better described as a friction knot or climbing knot rather than a true noose.  In particular, its intended purpose of resisting collapse of the loop in the manner of a friction knot until a shock load is applied should probably exclude it from the category of nooses.


 * As a general comment I think there's some room for improvement in the terminology used to categorize articles relating to Nooses, Running Knots, and Slip knots. Actually the introduction to ABOK Chapter 13 "The Noose" provides an overview of how Ashley viewed these terms.  I suspect terminology has perhaps drifted a bit, but it still provides a fairly coherent nomenclature.  This discussion would probably also be suited for Category talk:Running knots...


 * --Dfred (talk) 18:02, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All very good points. My first thoughts are that perhaps these knots should be spoken of in their own section of the article (briefly) and then a link at the top of each section pointing to the main article, that would seem to follow the MOS guidelines and would help fill out the article with relevant information.  As I'm coming into this purely as a general Wikipedian and as someone with little experience with knots, I definitely need help with getting terminology correct.  Does this all seem reasonable, and if so, are you willing to help out?  If we're not going to merges, then I can work on creating the sections with the links and brief descriptions, and yourself (or someone else) can do some terminology fixes? Chrisw80 (talk) 19:52, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Running bowline
There are three articles that probably should be merged into noose; Tarbuck knot, Running bowline, and Hangman's knot. Each of these is a "noose" and is pretty much a stub on their own aside from Hangman's knot, which needs some trimming to make it encyclopedic. Merging into noose seems the best way to achieve an article that is complete, encyclopedic, and not fragmented to the reader searching for information on this topic. Chrisw80 (talk) 19:12, 14 February 2016 (UTC)