Talk:Noosha Fox

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 * My comment is that there are probably several million articles which would be better bets for the "main page" than this one. The issue over her birth year is vanishingly unlikely to be resolved in the short term - unless a decision were made to press on with a clearly incorrect birth year (see discussion below), which would be unforgivable in an article promoted as good practice.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Birth year
Just noting that, born in 1954, she would have travelled to England as a singer at the age of 15 or (at most) 16, and married (to someone ten years her senior) at 18. Her birth date is reliably sourced, but I wonder if it may be a "showbiz" birth date, rather than a real one. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:35, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that this presents problems. I've looked for a good source but I can't find a reliable one so I won't change the article. However, I think it's a typo for 1944.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I haven't been able to find anything much online either, other than this site which says there is a Susan Goldacre, age 70+, living with a Michael Goldacre in Oxfordshire. Pictured here (on left) in 2007.  Electoral registers accessible via Ancestry.com suggest that that person was born circa 1942-44.  As Ben Goldacre is a stickler for truth, maybe he can confirm a birth year?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:07, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Let's keep WP:BLP in mind, always, and not dive through dumpsters or primary records looking for scraps per WP:BLPPRIMARY (reference 1 already violates this). If "truth" is elusive, and published date implausible or conflicts with other sources, one option is to simply omit the date until better sourcing arises, and write a bit more carefully. --Animalparty! (talk) 18:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm prepared to take the reliable source at face value over any of the primary sources and have removed the primary source currently in the article per WP:BLP. Those sources could both very well be referring to a different Susan Goldacre; indeed, there are at least two unrelated people with my name living in my London Borough.-- Laun chba ller 14:36, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I can understand (though I don't share) your aspiration to have an article to which you've contributed appearing on the "main page" - but this is an exceptionally bad choice of article. The sourcing is poor (largely from sources that fail reliability tests), and a key piece of the information that does come from a so-called "reliable source" is patently wrong (however much you may claim that it may not be).  I'm surprised that you still think that promoting the article in this way is a good idea.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:44, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * PS: Searching sites like 192.com strongly suggests that there is only one person named Susan M. Goldacre in the UK, and she shares an address with Michael J. Goldacre. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Susan grew up in Guildford, NSW, went to school for a few years at St. John's, Auburn, New South Wales, Australia. Susan used to entertain us with her poetry recitations on special days in class, notably one called 'Isobel'. I believe she was coached in 'elocution' by her father. I was born in July, 1945. I believe she was born in December, 1944. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44b8:311c:cf00:28c5:6935:5d8b:e372 (talk • contribs) 09:37, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * That's interesting, but anecdotal and unsourced, so can't be included in the article. Thanks anyway.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:36, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * PS: The German Wikipedia article on Fox here and the Dutch article here both give her birth date as 8 December 1944. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've removed the year for now, although the 1944 does seem likely. This source here explicitly gives it as 8 december 1944...  &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 22:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding that source. The only source that has previously been cited showing the 1954 date is this one - which was published by "Books on Demand".  If we simply ignore that source - which I would regard as not meeting WP:RS criteria - I would be happy to include the 1944 year from your more reliable source, which aligns with all of the circumstantial evidence.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:27, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I've learnt something, because I thought the costs of printing made self-publishing books prohibitively expensive, meaning there wouldn't be any such thing. I've added the 1944 date and cited Amakuru's source.-- Laun chba ller 23:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)