Talk:Norman Bates

Spoiler alert
Can someone throw on a spoiler alert or remove the endings of the sequels? Sideburnstate 16:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Wikipedia does not subscribe to the avoidance of spoilers since it contains encyclopedic information. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:39, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Ed Gein
According to the Ed Gein page, the author of the novel that Psycho is based on claims that Norman Bates was not based on Ed Gein. Can anyone investigate? --Shinyplasticbag 05:06, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes.88.230.204.76 (talk) 19:36, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

as anthony perkins.88.231.25.85 (talk) 07:35, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree.88.232.139.85 (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Quote from book about Unholy Trinity
I have the book in my hand, and the quote is this: "There was Norman, the little boy who needed his mother and hated anyone who came between him and her. Then, Norma, the mother, who could not be allowed to die. The third aspect might be called Normal - the adult Norman bates, who had to go through the daily routine of living, and conceal the existence of the other personalities from the world."

I didn't think the quote was necessary in the article though, so I left the original editor's paraphrase, but removed the aside that the quote might not be accurate.

Psycho IV
I made some changes to this section; he tries to kill his wife with the knife, and only sets the house on fire after he lets her go. The movie ends before she gives birth, with a hint that "Mother" is still present, just waiting to get out, so I cut out the line about him being free of her. (And burning down a house doesn't cure mental illness.) --VAcharon 19:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Also would like to add that despite altering the death of Norman's father, they didn't completely retcon the previous sequels out of existence. Norman mentions killing a few people a couple years earlier, implying that murderous events have happened since the original film. In general "Psycho IV" shares continuity errors with all the "Psycho" movies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.54.70.216 (talk) 11:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

triquel
"Triquel" is not yet a generally accepted English word. (A Google search, limited to English-language pages, finds only about 2000 hits, very few of which refer to "the third in a sequence".) I removed it. 207.31.229.4 17:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Schizophrenia
"The film implies that Bates' mother suffered from schizophrenia and passed the illness onto him."

Does it use that terminology? Schizophrenia is not a multiple personality disorder so it wouldn't be accurate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.100.7.33 (talk) 12:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Not only that, but I'm not sure where that comes from. I don't remember any implication that he inherited any mental illness from his mother. I could be wrong, but I'm 90% certain. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:42, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Death
Where does the 	December 21, 2003 date of death originate from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.215.28 (talk) 04:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Middle name?
Does Norman Bates have a middle name? This page seems to imply that his middle name is Francis but does not give a source. 80.121.9.129 (talk) 23:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Differences Between Film and Novel
There is an issue with the very last part of the film section of the article. It mentions that in the film Bates makes Crane his first victim, but that's not true. It's hinted to in the movie (from second to last scene) that two other girls had gone missing recently from the area, alluding to the previous two murders mentioned in the book. For that reason, I'm deleting those lines. Pyrotics (talk) 21:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree and someone has put that back. I'm also deleting it. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:44, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Norman's age
In Psycho II, Norman says to Mary that he was 12 when his mother went mad and poisoned her, while in Psycho IV, he says he was 15 when he poisoned his mother. Is there any trustful source that tells of Norman's age throughout the Psycho movies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deane Shafortock (talk • contribs) 13:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Ed Gein was not a Serial Killer
Hey

It says on Norman Bates' page that the character was "inspired by serial killer Ed Gein". However on Ed Gein's page it says "With fewer than three murders attributed, Gein does not meet the traditional definition of a serial killer."

Can someone fix this please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.93.58 (talk) 03:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Fix what? A serial murder is a connection of murders committed by the same person. What the Gein article is trying to say is "traditional" meaning that most (not all) have more than 3 murders, but even then that is subjective rather than objective. Nothing needs fixing. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:53, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

"Bates Motel"
There needs to be a distinction between the two different tv series, both called 'Bates Motel'.

Also, I need to inform one of the previous posters that wikipedia, does not believe in spoiler alerts, and will continue to reveal spoilers without warning.

Thepoodlechef (talk) 09:28, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree on the distinction and I fixed it. I still don't like the Bates Motel (film) title and think Wikipedia needs to change that. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 22:58, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Unreferenced section
I have inserted an unreferenced section tag for obvious reasons. One problem is that the section ramble on about Norman but does not indicate what version of Norman the section is talking about. Is it the Psycho film or the Bates Motel or something else? MagnoliaSouth (talk) 23:30, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Baby/Infant or child?
In the original Psycho, Norman said that his father died when he was five (or six as he said in Psycho IV: The Beginning). But in Psycho III, Tracy Venable said to Norman "Emma Spool killed your father in a jealous rage and kidnapped you when you were just a baby". So was he an infant when his father died or five/six years old? If he was five/six, then Venable must have meant "child" when she said "baby". Not "infant". 31.48.251.160 (talk) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Danganronpa: Kirigiri
The page says Danganronpa: Kirigiri is a licensed novel. I do not believe this is accurate. 2601:144:202:5590:35FF:780A:3C54:6BEA (talk) 03:20, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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in a story, antagonist does not mean "anti"
as in "bad guy against good guy," and protagonist does not mean "pro," as in good guy against bad guy. protagonist refers to the plot driver, and Norman drives the plot soibangla (talk) 04:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)