Talk:Normcore

Earlier origins?
According to these two sources, "normcore" was coined several years before the K-Hole document, by a web comic called Templar, Arizona

http://penguinrandomhouse.ca/hazlitt/podcast/arcade-episode-44-featuring-william-gibson

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=normcore

--Visualpleasure (talk) 18:15, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This article should not be speedy deleted as being about a subject that was invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally and for lack of asserted importance, because... (your reason here) --Kylelovesyou (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

I didn't coin the term. I have several references asserting its importance. - Kylelovesyou (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Ridiculous
Since when is being "normal" considered a "cultural trend"? It's called mainstream culture and coining a word for it doesn't mean that a trend actually exists. Liz Read! Talk! 17:04, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I genuinely believe that the whole article has been created by just one person, just look at what they've posted in this talk section alone.173.48.63.46 (talk) 07:48, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If the amount of media coverage a supposed trend gets is an indication of its actually being a cultural trend, then normcore definitely seems to be one:
 * New York Magazine: Normcore: Fashion for Those Who Realize They’re One in 7 Billion, Feb 2014
 * New York Times: Normcore: Fashion Movement or Massive In-Joke?, Feb 2014
 * Vogue: Meet Norma Normcore, Mar 2014
 * Huffington Post: The Real Meaning Of Normcore, The Fashion Trend That Went Oddly Viral, Mar 2014
 * LA Times: Normcore is (or is it?) a fashion trend (or non-trend or anti-trend), which in May called it "the fashion world's biggest buzzword yet of 2014"
 * Slate: Beware of Normcore; The bogus-sounding new fashion trend is all too real, Apr 2014
 * Et cetera... No-itsme (talk) 13:12, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Photo isn't normcore
Okay, fuck, I hate that I'm even talking about this right now, but I disagree that the photo attached to the page represents "normcore fashion." The woman is wearing a deep v-neck t-shirt, skinny tight jeans, and has cuffed pants. All of these are not indicative of "normcore" fashion. While I love photos on Wikipedia, I feel like this one doesn't really help illuminate this (perhaps almost non-existent) fashion "trend". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.60.54 (talk) 08:54, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Why does an article on hipster posturing and fashion not mention the word hipster?
Am I missing something? Or is it not hip to label hipster fashion as hipster? Does that automatically make it not hipster, like the goth subculture of the 80's and scene kids of the 00's? :O BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 10:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If there is a reliable source linking normcore and hipsters in particular, we can mention this link. Do you know of one? See WP:V.  Sandstein   11:24, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This. http://nancyfriedman.typepad.com/away_with_words/2014/03/word-of-the-week-normcore.html

"Know Your Meme called it “a humorous fashion trend in which artists and others associated with the“hipster” subculture emulate Middle Americans by wearing ordinary clothing with dull or muted colors.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.246.229.161 (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a blog. Blogs aren't considered reliable sources on Wikipedia, see WP:SPS.  Sandstein   20:20, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

East Asia
Normcore clothes ... They are generally cheaply produced in East Asian countries. First of, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are part of East Asia but not typical countries where garments are cheap to produce, whereas Bangladesh and Vietnam are such countries, but they're not part of East Asia. And that a garment is produced in the "Far East" isn't indicative of it being normcore. 176.4.107.148 (talk) 07:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. The sentence "They are generally cheaply produced in East Asian countries." should be deleted because the statement is both untrue and not germane to the topic. 1) Other than China (which manufactures everything under the sun and manages to be both an 800 pound gorilla and an outlier), textile factories have largely moved on from East Asia to cheaper countries. 2) ALL mainstream brands manufacture where it's cheapest. Although it may be helpful to give an example of a few brands that sell largely "normcore" fashion, the place of manufacture does not have anything to do with the underlying fashion. Jjankechu (talk) 19:59, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Desigual?
How Superdry or especially Desigual are supposed to be normcore is beyond me.

And I think that the entire statement Many other retailers such as Marc O'Polo, Woolrich, Desigual, Closed and Scotch & Soda produce normcore-like clothes combined with individual design ideas. is superfluous blurb. 176.4.107.148 (talk) 07:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Appropriate Image
I have removed the present image, as it reflects a hipster style rather than the normcore style described in the article. Per the links cited in this article, vs. those in the article outlining hipsters, the thick-framed glasses, stylized hair, prominent mustache, and "skinny" fit of the clothes reflect "ironic" hipster aesthetics vs. the plain, "blend in" aesthetics identified in this page's sources as the substance of normcore fashion. (In particular, multiple articles cite plain, wire-rimmed glasses as "normcore" eyewear and specifically identify the sort of thick-rimmed glasses featured in the photo as the sort of eyewear that normcore is moving away from). The character of George Costanza from Seinfeld is frequently cited as an example of "the" Normcore poster-boy, but as another user pointed out, the image of him from his article may not be able to be used here under fair use.76.31.249.221 (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2015 (UTC)