Talk:North Carolina Highway 13 (1936–1951)/GA2

GA Review
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Reviewer: JPxG (talk · contribs) 06:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll do my best! jp×g 06:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, dear. This isn't going to be a fun review.


 * All the sources from this article are maps. Let's take a look:
 * I opened the first map, which is an enormously confusing mesh of highways: isn't this the work of a state government? Isn't this public domain? Wouldn't it be possible to take a screenshot of the section that shows this highway? At any rate, I looked very closely on this one for the alleged route of Highway 13, based on the outline from the OpenStreetMap insert in the infobox, going northeast from just north of Seagrove to the middle of Staley. I do not see anything at all labeled 13. I see mile markers on the side of other roads labeled "13". There is no highway that remotely follows the route laid out in the article. This source does not seem to show anything.
 * The second map has the same issue (an extremely large image with no indication of where the highway is). After much effort, I see that NC 13 now does indeed go northeast from Seagrove... but it doesn't go to Staley! It goes northeast, then northwest, and connects to 64.
 * The third map is unclear on what precisely is going on. It does show a 13, which just kind of connects to 902. There is another route, coming out of the north side of 902 a good few miles east, that connect with Staley. Nowhere does it say this is 13.
 * The fourth map shows nothing at all going northeast from Seagrove. The number "13" appears somewhere near that area, on a completely different road, as a mile marker.
 * The fifth map is a present-day Google Maps link. This is barely a WP:RS to begin with, and it's being used to support a statement about where a highway went in 1936. It demonstrates absolutely no factual claim (besides the fact that, in the year 2021, there are roads that follow a route described in the article).
 * The sixth map, from 1924, shows absolutely no highway connecting Seagrove to Staley, which isn't even on the map.
 * The seventh map, from 1935, also shows no highway connecting Seagrove to Staley.

The fact of the matter is that this article's only sourcing is seven scans of old maps, which is enough of a problem, but it is even more of a problem that literally none of them confirm the claims being made in the article.

To make things worse, all of these issues were brought up in the last unsuccessful GA nomination, and were not fixed; in fact, the article had zero edits between February 2017 and November 2020, at which point no new sources were introduced at all. I do not doubt that this article could meet notability criteria with additional references, but as it stands, it seems to consist of nothing more than original research; I'm failing it, and would advise that more work be done before a re-nomination. jp×g 07:34, 15 March 2021 (UTC)