Talk:North Mount Lyell disaster

Renaming?
See Category talk:Mining disasters for a discussion on whether to rename this and similar articles to remove the capitalisation. Z iggurat 21:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Not Appropriate (sic). North Mount Lyell was the place (and earlier company name), and to place lower on the last word seems trivial! User:SatuSuro 06:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd be suggesting that this be renamed 1912 North Mount Lyell disaster, the same as most of the other disasters in Category:Mining disasters. I'm not sure what you mean in terms of it being trivial? Z iggurat 07:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree that the capitalisation of one letter seems trivial, but also agree with Ziggurat that the correct case for the 'd' is lower case. --Scott Davis Talk 08:06, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The Zeehan and Dundas Herald in October 1912 tended to put titles to the stories that they were following up, as the North Mount Lyell fire. Other synonyms in local usage, include -

The North Lyell disaster, the 1912 fire, and the publisher of crawfords novel puts it as 1912 queenstown mining disaster! As for triviality, and checking the variant labels - if someone wants to change to the lower-case, so be it! User:SatuSuro 04:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Rating
Maybe to a young outsider, but to the west coasters up until as recentlty as 1973, it was a major issue: it involved Mining Company incompetence, labour union organisation, special rescue issues - it was the pre 1st World War 'Beaconsfield tragedy' for many in Tasmania and Australia. Its impact stayed around for a considerable time. Reading the criteria - I would say the reviewer could have given it a middle range importance, but then - if not au fait with such issues, and the current state of the art, oh well :) User:SatuSuro 07:51, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I rated it as such because I don't think it's as well known or as likely to be searched as, say, the 1974 Brisbane Flood or the 1989 Newcastle earthquake. Age is a factor - as we get older, those more recent disasters will reduce in importance too. But as I've said, you're welcome to take it up in the disputes section. --Iorek85 10:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Both of which are not in Western Australian or Tasmanian popular conciousness of today either :) Fair enough! when I'm ready... :)  User:SatuSuro 10:28, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Mid-2007 edits
It would appear that some of the usage of the Archives of Tasmania inquest reports in mid 2007 could have been almost considered problematic in relation to the following policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Attribution#Primary_and_secondary_sources. The list when first created could not have possibly been created in the manner by those edit as the archives records are not easily accessible - Bradshaw is a published item and technically accessible - archive office inquest reports are usually not SatuSuro 15:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Death Notices
removed due to no attribution, and no source identified: -

Death Notices
DAVEY -  In loving memory of James Henry Davey, dearly loved husband of Ethel Davey, who was killed in the North Lyell Disaster on October 12, 1912. There are days of deepest sorrow, In the seasons of our life; There are wild despairing moments. There are hours of bitter strife.

There are times of stoney anguish, When the tears refuse to fall; But the parting time, dear loved one, Is the hardest time of all. -Inserted by his loving wife and children, E. Davey.

GARD -  In sad and loving memory of our dear brother, George, who was accidentally killed in that cruel North Lyell disaster, on October 12, 1912. "In the midst of life we are in death." -Inserted by his dear sister and brother-in-law, Lassie and Will Hayton, Queenstown

LEEMAN -  In loving memory of our dear brother, John Martin, who was killed in the North Lyell mine, October 12, 1912. Gone is the face we loved so dear, Silent the voice we loved to hear; Too far away for sight or speech' But not too far for thought to reach. -Inserted by his loving brothers and sisters-in-law, Charlie and Frances, and Frank and Catherine Leeman.

McCASLAND -  In sad remembrance of our late esteemed member, E.F. McCasland, who lost his life in the North Lyell mine, October 12, 1912. Thou art not forgotten, Nor never wilt thou be; As long as life and memory lasts, We will remember thee. -Inserted by the F.E.D.F.A. (Federated Engine Drivers and Fireman's Association) Gormanston branch.

McCULLAGH -  In sincere remembrance of Ted McCullagh, who lost his life in the North Mount Lyell Mine Disaster, on October 12, 1912. "A good man gone where we all must go." -Inserted by E. O'K., Queenstown.

PARK -  In sad, but loving memory of my dear husband, James Robert Park, who lost his life in the Mount Lyell Disaster, on October 12, 1912. -Inserted by his sorrowing wife, A.E. Park.

PARK -  In loving memory of our dear friend, James Robert Park, who was killed in the North Lyell Mine on October 12, 1912. As goood a heart as ever beat, Has passed away from earth; But memory lives within the heart, Of those who knew his worth. -Inserted by his loving friends, Catherine and Frank Leeman.

SCOTT -  In loving memory of our dear husband and father, Leonard Sydney Hall, who lost his life in the North Lyell mine disaster, October 12, 1912. So bright and happy he went away, Bidding his wife and child good-bye; And, indeed, he little thought, He had left his home to die.

No more his welcome footsteps Will tread our cottage door; No more we watch for Leonard dear, When his work at Lyell mine is o'er. -Inserted by his loving wife and child, Louisa and Violet Scott, Queenstown.

SCOTT -  A loving tribute to the memory of our dear brother, Leonard, who lost his life in the North Lyell Fire Disaster, October 12, 1912. Oh, what sadness in the word "gone". Your end came sudden, Leonard, dear. It makes us weep and sigh, For, oh, it was hard to think You could not say good-bye. -Inserted by his sorrowing sister and brother-in-law, E. and J. Cannon.

WRIGHT -  In loving memory of my dear husband and father, Henry Edwin Wright, who passed away to Jesus on October 12, 1912, in the North Lyell Mine Disaster. Oh, husband, dear, I feel thy loss, I miss thy dear face so; Deep in my heart I mourn for thee, More than my tears can show.

A loving father thou hast been, A father true and kind; A fonder heart could never beat, To those now left behind.

We think of him in silence, No eyes can see us weep; But ever deep within our hearts, His memory we will keep. -Inserted by his loving wife and family, North Lyell.

SatuSuro 01:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Removal of name John Olive Lees
This name, added by anonymous editor 71.196.104.194 on 13 May 2011, appears to be that of a survivor.