Talk:Northeast, Minneapolis

New NE article
I just put this up, but there's some changes I'd like. First off I need to find a better photo. The current one doesn't really do the old milling district justice. So if you have one, feel free. Otherwise I'll be looking for a replacement. I also want to add more about the current state of "Nordeast" focusing on the arts more, maybe talking about art-a-whirl more, maybe adding the logo. Rx StrangeLove 02:14, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Um
Wait.. This article partly covers southeast. Northeast Minneapolis is technically north of East Hennepin Ave. Yeah, the street/postal directions are screwed up in this city. Southeast is this stupid little wedge that gets in everyone's way (and I live there ;-) &mdash;User:Mulad (talk) 18:19, May 10, 2005 (UTC)

Nordeast
I went ahead and threw the other common short-name into the first line. Despite two different redirects (from Nordeast and Nordeast Minneapolis), the name was oddly never mentioned in this article. --Bobak 18:38, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

nordeast
No one who lives in Northeast calls it Nordeast. I have lived in Northeast for 10+ years and, with rare exception (maybe 4 or 5 times in these 10 years,) I have only heard people from other parts of the city use the term. My guess is at one time it was a mildly amusing term for locals to use mocking and/or celebrating the ethnic history of the quadrant, but when people from other parts of the city started using the term, usually in some psudo-scandanavian accent not unlike the Swedish Chef, it was time to put the term to bed. It's not as much offensive as it is stupid. Hardly anything paints one as a non-local faster than using this term.

I was born in NE and have lived there ever since. while "Nordeast" is not commonly used, it's not frowned upon either. I remember my grandparents referring to "Nordeast" many a time while growing up. You'll find that many establishments in the area still use the neighborhood moniker proudly. Psycho Suzi's Motor Lounge, for example, uses the word a few times in their menu. Call it "stupid" if you want, but its a part of NE history that many of us still like.


 * Agree, it's common enough and certainly used by residents and businesses in NE. Part of it's history and is still a well known way to refer to the area. RxS 03:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I have lived and worked in NE for several years. I call it "Nordeast" with pride. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.23.159.138 (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

When I lived there from 2002 to 2013, I never heard any locals use Nordeast. In fact I hadn't heard the term until 2010 or so.

More to Nordeast
This article doesn't really cover much of NE outside of the St. Anthony Main area. Everything down Marshall, University, and Central seems to be completely left out. Places like the Minnesota Center for Photography, the Holy Land Deli, and the myriad NE bars (Grumpy's, Mayzlacks, Polish Palace), are the reason many non-nordeasters come to the area. Any intent to remedy this?
 * This article needs SERIOUS help. First its geographically unclear, what is Northeast? Everything northeast of the river all the way to the border with Columbia Heights? Or merely the Old St. Anthony downtown? Every picture in this article is about Old St. Anthony but that is not Northeast Minneapolis, sure we call it Northeast as its the oldest downtown of the northeast area. But yeah Psycho Suzys, Holyland, lots of random historic buildings I know nothing about, and not to mention dun dun dun, Riverside Power Plant railing in lots of yummy coal to the area. And what about my favorite St. Anthony Park. Lawl, this article was written by a suburbanite/out-of-towner/Wisconsinite because the way I read it, it reminds me of what I use to think was called Northeast back in my B-town days. .:DavuMaya:. 05:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL i fixed this. .:DavuMaya:. 18:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like your recent changes, but I question one aspect. I think the area south of East Hennepin is more often referred to as Southeast. Isn't that what the road signs say?--Appraiser (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal
 The result was merge into Northeast, Minneapolis. It's all done ja! .:DavuMaya:. 16:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC) Okkkkkkkaaaaaaaay I was bold and have proposed to merge this into Northeast, Minneapolis. Why? My end goal is to get the record straight and possibly take out some redundancy. On another point, this article actually reflects Old St. Anthony and parts of this article should technically be merged over there. .:DavuMaya:. 06:36, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Our NRP communities are officially recognized and this content should fall under them. There should be one article because it's all the same Northeast. There we can clarify the confusions made over what is Northeast, Nordeast, St. Anthony, Old St. Anthony, etc. Because so many new people come through this area, 9/10 the edits here on Wikipedia do not reflect the actual history of the residents who live/lived here not to mention established published sources.
 * There is no Southeast Minneapolis, no South Minneapolis no Longfellow Minneapolis, they all have their own community pages ie Longfellow, Minneapolis with a comma. Using the Northeast, Minneapolis name stays with current established Wiki naming policy (Neighborhood, City, State) and is consistent with existing pages of the same topic.
 * The original page only covered the Old St. Anthony downtown, today's edits stretching that to cover the entire Northeast area to the city limits shows that the original author was confused. Nordeast IS Old St. Anthony seeing as this article discusses the history of the original St. Anthony and fails to talk about Central or Marshall or Lowry (people there would be downright upset if they saw this article).
 * This will be a repeat of the first but again, there is not enough distinction between the NRP outlined community and the culturally known one. Yes the border drawn is a little off-set but that can be explained in the official article that some of what is considered University is generally part of Northeast. I mean how do the thousands of naive students with laptops and boredom for Wikipedia know that the true Northeast heart lies on Central Ave and Univ NE?

Merge All of Northeast, Nordeast, Old St. Anthony, etc. can be in one article. Putting it all together could result in a nice well-rounded article, including history, demographics, immigration, industry, revitalization, and influence of the U.--Appraiser 12:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Merge works for me. Old St Anthony association is trying to rebrand itself as "Northeast", so one article will help alleviate some confusion. I'm all for making the title consistent with wiki styles. I would start with the current Northeast Minneapolis and add on from there. Natcase 18:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay just making sure we clarify that Northeast, Minneapolis is the Wiki standard. Reasoning being the comma indicates the area is within Minneapolis otherwise the entire phrase would be confused for an actual City or entity. East Detroit for example is not just east of Detroit, its an actual city with its own Mayor and government, which is why in '92 it was renamed Eastpointe. I'll reiterate - the point is the NRP community called "Northeast" and what we consider Northeast is one in the same and there is nothing more distinctive other the fact in the '70s Northeast was officially given lines on a map. As well, the popularized Northeast doesn't stray from its own borders unlike Uptown which is indeed across distinctive n'hoods. As with previous comments, combining everything will create a much more unified and clear understanding of what Northeast is and how the Neighborhood organization grew from it. I will keep the Neighborhood articles distinctive instead of merging them because precedence has already been set. For example Phillips, Minneapolis was recently split into four neighborhoods and separate pages were created for each. It's respectful that we give the NRP n'hoods their own page since they are written in law. .:DavuMaya:. 03:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Agree with the merge, there should only be one "northeast" article. I suppose a case could be made for keeping Old St Anthony separate...but it's not a big deal. I'm indifferent to the inclusion of a comma. One comment though, we don't expect new articles to be fully formed and totally inclusive when first added. So a new article that's not fully formed is less a matter of confusion and more a result of how Wikipedia articles evolve. So if information is missing, please add it! In any case, Northeast certainly deserves a unified page. I could be persuaded that a separate Old St Anthony page is justified considering that it covers more ground then just NE and had a historical impact that went beyond NE but...shrug... RxS 20:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Props to StrangeLove there, I was kind of mean to ya which was indirect frustration over some editing that was going on on other pages (COUGh 35W). I agree we won't have perfect pages and part of the Wiki process is having the power to rename, move, merge, etc which is all part of how WP works anyway, right? Cools. Since it has been nearly a month with near consensus, I will begin moving content over to Northeast, Minneapolis and after all the content is moved I will formally delete Northeast Minneapolis. I have not decided what to do with the Old St. Anthony article..:DavuMaya:. 06:15, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Economy
OK, we need to do more economy than the commerical district (though noting the other commercial districts in NE would help). I'm a relative newbie in the area, so what I know about is: That's a start, anway--Natcase 13:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Riverfront industry: Grain Belt Brewery, lumber, etc.
 * The rail yards
 * the industrial park (Nabisco, Cream of Wheat, Daytons Warehouse historically. Now all kinds of stuff)
 * blue collar part of town: mostly industry, less office and financial
 * distinct NE businesses like Northeast Bank, Rainville Funeral Home, I don't know...

Quarry
The dates on the Quarry shopping center seem to be a bit off. I remember shopping at that Target and Rainbow when I first came to the Cities in 1998... but according to the article it didn't open until 2000. Are we sure it's a reliable source? 209.23.159.138 (talk) 18:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I fixed it a while back. Opened in 96. .:davumaya:.

18th Century
Since I am not aware of pre-19th century buildings in Minneapolis, I assume the reference to 18th century, or 17xx, buildings in Northeast Minneapolis was a typographical error. I have corrected accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.9.48 (talk) 06:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)