Talk:Northeast blackout of 1965

Rename
As discussed elsewhere, I think this article should be moved to Northeast American power outage (1965), for several reasons:
 * 1) Changes current americentric title (northeast India?), and disambiguates
 * 2) Uses currently accepted date disambiguation standard (though still debated)
 * 3) Uses the less idiomatic and more accurate term power outage

At the very least, change it to Northeast American blackout of 1965, to disambiguate. Also, note the decapitalization of blackout, which is not a proper noun. 134.250.72.141

Fix
This article was ransacked by someone. The text has inserted bad words and the information became unreadable. Revert to previous version and block the IP who did it, please. If not possible, then delete the first paragraphs of the article, as it is no longer useful. Thanks. (unsigned comment by 208.242.148.4 01:08, 13 February 2007 )
 * I fixed the vandalism. Fjbfour 10:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Engineering Disasters on The History Channel
The TV series Engineering Disasters states that the cause of the blackout of 1965 was an electrical component (similar to a circuit breaker) that had been marked UPGRADED when, in fact, it had not been upgraded. Maybe all these many years later there remains controversy. The Wikipedia article blames a mouse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.237.228 (talk) 00:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Maine was affected by the power outage
Contrary to what this article states, Maine was affected by the Blackout of 65. Around Bangor, Me our lights went out for 2 or 3 hours; I was in Hampden. We weren't without power for long but it was part of the same power outage. A little research in local papers should confirm Maine also lost power.

Gloryroad (talk) 03:38, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

pop culture
never mind

Episode 5 of season 1 Quantum Leap (TV series) happens on the eve of the blackout and is caused by something that Sam does.bufalo_1973 (talk) 15:57, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Bad map
The map is misleading. Vast tracts of Norhern Ontario either have no electricity or else are not connectected to the south-easter part of the province, and would not have been affected by the 1965 blackout. It's not "areas", it's political boundaries of the states and provinces affected =- the actual area of outages would have been less. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:40, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Astonishingly poor article
This article does an unbelievably poor job of describing probably the main aspect of interest regarding this blackout: its scope.

Not even have an estimate of the number of people who were affected?

Not even a slightly detailed description of which geographical areas were affected?

Truly incredible.Daqu (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Effect and aftermath - Brooklyn, NY
Apparently, the user who changed the following text to mention the Midwood section of Brooklyn, NY, lived there:

"New York City was dark by 5:27 p.m. The blackout was not universal in the city. Some neighborhoods, including the Midwood section of Brooklyn, NY, never lost power."

I lived in the Midwood section on Glenwood Road near Midwood HS and my family did indeed lose power -

While Midwood isn't much larger than a square mile, it is divided into quadrants by the BMT subway (going north-south) and the Long Island Railroad (going east-west), so it's entirely possible that south of the LIRR or west of the BMT, folks didn't lose power.

Charcast (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2013 (UTC)Charcast

Fails to Mention Subway Riders
Press reports at the time, citing officials knowledgeable of estimated ridership during rush hour, estimated over 800,000 subway riders were trapped on bridges, in tunnels and elevated lines (per New York Times, 11/09/1965, page 1 banner headline: "Power Failure Snarls Northeast; 800,000 Are Caught in Subways Here; Autos Tied Up, City Gropes In Dark"). It took five hours to evacutae some 1,700 passengers from four subways stuck on the Williamsburgh Bridge alone (Rosenthal, A.M. ed. 1965. The Night the Lights Went Out. New York: New American Library, page 35, accessed at http://blackout.gmu.edu/archive/pdf/nytimes_65.pdf on 21 May 2014). JoeEnrght (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC) [User: JoeEnright]

Unexplained page move
Someone moved this page to Northeast North America blackout of 1965 with an edit summary, "not the only place in the world to have power cuts". Though that may be true, this article is specifically about the blackout that occured in the Northeast of the American continent in 1965 (clue is in the title). Also, "Northeast North" does not make sense as it is not a recognised compass point. Moved back to where it was. DieSwartzPunkt (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The continent is called North America so that is its location. The blackout occurred in both the US and Canada so it refers to "North east North America", not something random like "Northeast North" which is plain weird. My understanding was that America only referred to the US whereas North America includes everything relevant. Simply south ...... time, department skies for just 8 years 21:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * As an uninvolved editor, I would encourage further discussion before any live page moves per WP:BRD. BusterD (talk) 00:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Northeast blackout of 2003 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 19:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

UFO
Anything related to UFO's of course is paranoid nonsense. Don't look into any information regarding UFO's. UFO's are for crazy people. There is no evidence for UFO's. Because there is no evidence of UFO's it must be made up Rubbish ! Seriously, never look into anything related to UFO's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.108.206 (talk) 14:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

What does this mean?
In the section titled Cause, this sentence appears:

"The system operators were not aware of a potential ambiguity between the extremely heavy power flows into Ontario and the setting upon which the relay was properly designed to operate."

Very few readers are expert on the subject of the operation of electrical power relays. For this reason, almost no readers will understand what this "ambiguity" is about.

I hope someone knowledgeable on this subject will explain this more clearly.2600:1700:E1C0:F340:58AB:EDCF:8192:7808 (talk) 17:09, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Programmed? Also no link to mentioned investigative report used as source.
I'm not sure if programed and sensed are the correct words to use as they are not mentioned anywhere in the official hearing for the failure and the mentioned "Report of The Northeast Power co-ordinating Council (NPCC)" is not linked. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-89hhrg66577p1/pdf/CHRG-89hhrg66577p1.pdf Honestly I'm unsure and decided to bring it up. 2600:1700:8010:5A30:5948:C817:B9DD:1D6 (talk) 00:52, 8 December 2023 (UTC)