Talk:Northgate Mall (San Rafael, California)/Archive 1

Merge
This content could also be merged into Terra Linda, San Rafael, California, which already mentions Northgate Mall. This would seem compliant with WP:LOCAL However, the Terra Linda page is partially blocked due to previous vandalism, and I have deleted much of the store detail that was included in a chatty kind of style.

entered data into more than 1000 mall articles in the past two months, several of which were immediately reverted, in some cases because editors thought the lists of stores or the size in square feet were not encyclopedic. Perhaps most malls should be handled like masts and should be placed in a list or table, unless they are sufficiently notable to allow a full article to be created.

Northgate may be such a mall. In addition to being the only enclosed mall in Marin County, it was the subject of considerable controversy in the San Rafael and Marin County business communities when it was developed, since it was seen as a threat to downtown San Rafael's department stores, just as Valley Fair and Santana Row were in San Jose.

The only link here is from User:Kirjtc2/Malls, who has a very long list of North American malls on his/her userspace.

Perhaps, in addition to Category:Shopping malls in California, there should be articles with associated lists, such as Shopping malls in Northern California, where mall stubs could live until they were fleshed out. Each mall could each be in a separate section, so they would be easier to edit and community articles could link to them. --Hjal 06:18, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Possible Merge
This is a copy of what I posted earlier at Wikiproject Bay Area. "There are a couple of articles on Marin County shopping centers, all of which way or may not be notable enough for a wikipedia article. Therefore, I propose merging all of them into one page, something along the lines of Shopping Centers in Marin County, CA. All the different shopping venues would have their own subsection. The articles in question are: Comments? Suggestions?" Metallic 95  User Page | Talk 14:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Town Center at Corte Madera
 * The Village at Corte Madera
 * The Mall at Northgate.


 * Oppose I think that all three malls pass the WP:N test, although it will take more work to fill them out. I wouldn't oppose a merge without prejudice," if they could be separated without a struggle later.  The Corte Madera malls have nothing in common with Northgate except being in the same county.  IIRC, the political arguments over their original development had one similarity (the feared impact on downtown San Rafael), but they happened in different eras, in retail time.  The Village has the extra issue of wetlands impact and the resulting efforts to save the Corte Madera Marsh.  I suspect that when more history is added, that they won't fit as well together as if they were just stubs about currently open stores.  I think that it's important to provide a home for this stuff so it gets a good structure and doesn't fill up city articles, so a merge is better than deletion for really weak mall articles.


 * Should Strawberry Town & Country Village be included if this goes ahead? Or have it's own page if not?  I suppose if the "anchor" store is a supermarket, that a mall might even fall below my inclusionary limit, but I haven't looked for notable info yet.


 * Finally, this section has been struck out twice, by two different IPs. The second may have been the original author.  Strikeouts need an explanation so we know that it isn't just vandalism.--Hjal 07:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yea, the second was me, accidentally unlogged in, and I have given up on the idea. WP:MALLS didn't like it, and agree with their comments. Metallic 95  User Page | Talk 01:57, 15 May 2007 (UTC)